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To: Mershon

I did not choose to make those letters public. They were posted elsewhere on the Internet for all to see. I simply posted them here. (A little venial sin of rash judgment for your next Confession!) Anyhow, isn't secrecy the surest sign of a cult?

I love the way you Lefebvrians twist and turn things. Fellay did not "instigate a meeting" which the Pope "accepted".

Please, remember who is the excommunicated schismatic here - it's Fellay.

Fellay humbly (well, insofar as any Lefebvrian is capable of humility!) requested an audience, which the Holy Father graciously (after the insulting Circular Letters, that's being VERY gracious indeed) granted to him.

And we'll pray.

But read everything to come out of the SSPX - and that's a lot of reading, since it's coming out of both sides of their mouths! - and it's pretty clear: like their arrogant and disobedient master, Marcel, having been their own Popes for this long, it is very unlikely that they are about to go back to being obedient bishops of Christ's one, holy, Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church!


49 posted on 08/16/2005 1:53:24 PM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: TaxachusettsMan
Anyhow, isn't secrecy the surest sign of a cult?

No, I think that's human sacrifice, or storefront "reading rooms".

51 posted on 08/16/2005 2:02:24 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country." -- Mitt Romney)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
si si, no no, has a long and well documented examination of the schism. Lefebvre clearly was establishing a petit ecclesia. But, we are supposed to pretend it is all about Tradition. They ain't coming back. This is all a sham intended to keep the sspx fellow travelers excited about Rome's perfidy - "we tried to bring Rome back to Tradition. They refused but we will keep alive the spark of Tradition until such time as the Holy Spirit breathes upon our spark and we have a Pope.".

Who knows..Maybe they will "elect" their own Pope. I am sure they could draft an "explanation" of the necessity of doing such a thing along with reasons why theh Holy Spirit supplied univeral Jurisdiction during this time of unprecedented emergency blah, blah, blah

56 posted on 08/16/2005 2:28:33 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: TaxachusettsMan

"I did not choose to make those letters public. They were posted elsewhere on the Internet for all to see."

But you chose to post them publicly hear to spread them, right?


"I simply posted them here. (A little venial sin of rash judgment for your next Confession!) Anyhow, isn't secrecy the surest sign of a cult?"

I am sure that there are many internal memos the Vatican writes and that businesses write to each other every day that are not public. Does that make them cults?

"I love the way you Lefebvrians twist and turn things. Fellay did not "instigate a meeting" which the Pope "accepted"."

I am not a Lefebrian. I am a Catholic. I attend an indult Mass thee times a month (driving 3 hours RT once each month) and a Novus Ordo (because I have no choice in the matter, the other time per month. I attend the Novus Ordo daily.

"Fellay humbly (well, insofar as any Lefebvrian is capable of humility!) requested an audience, which the Holy Father graciously (after the insulting Circular Letters, that's being VERY gracious indeed) granted to him."

These letters were posted by YOU. And it is YOUR opinion they are "insulting." Your own private interpretation, as you like to say.

"And we'll pray."

You'll pray for what?

"But read everything to come out of the SSPX - and that's a lot of reading, since it's coming out of both sides of their mouths! - and it's pretty clear: like their arrogant and disobedient master, Marcel, having been their own Popes for this long, it is very unlikely that they are about to go back to being obedient bishops of Christ's one, holy, Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church!"

And you have obviously never read the decree on ecumenism from the Second Vatican Council nor Ut Unum Sint on how to maintain relations with those whom you deem to be "schismatics." Try reading them and heeding them. You are doing NOTHING to foster unity by your posts here.


59 posted on 08/16/2005 2:51:44 PM PDT by Mershon
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To: TaxachusettsMan

"I did not choose to make those letters public. They were posted elsewhere on the Internet for all to see."

But you chose to post them publicly hear to spread them, right?


"I simply posted them here. (A little venial sin of rash judgment for your next Confession!) Anyhow, isn't secrecy the surest sign of a cult?"

I am sure that there are many internal memos the Vatican writes and that businesses write to each other every day that are not public. Does that make them cults?

"I love the way you Lefebvrians twist and turn things. Fellay did not "instigate a meeting" which the Pope "accepted"."

I am not a Lefebrian. I am a Catholic. I attend an indult Mass thee times a month (driving 3 hours RT once each month) and a Novus Ordo (because I have no choice in the matter, the other time per month. I attend the Novus Ordo daily.

"Fellay humbly (well, insofar as any Lefebvrian is capable of humility!) requested an audience, which the Holy Father graciously (after the insulting Circular Letters, that's being VERY gracious indeed) granted to him."

These letters were posted by YOU. And it is YOUR opinion they are "insulting." Your own private interpretation, as you like to say.

"And we'll pray."

You'll pray for what?

"But read everything to come out of the SSPX - and that's a lot of reading, since it's coming out of both sides of their mouths! - and it's pretty clear: like their arrogant and disobedient master, Marcel, having been their own Popes for this long, it is very unlikely that they are about to go back to being obedient bishops of Christ's one, holy, Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church!"

And you have obviously never read the decree on ecumenism from the Second Vatican Council nor Ut Unum Sint on how to maintain relations with those whom you deem to be "schismatics." Try reading them and heeding them. You are doing NOTHING to foster unity by your posts here.


60 posted on 08/16/2005 2:52:18 PM PDT by Mershon
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