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Lutheran leader calls for an ecumenical council to address growing biblical fundamentalism
Religion News Service ^ | Thursday, 11 August 2005 | Kevin Eckstrom

Posted on 08/20/2005 4:17:14 PM PDT by gscc

Lutheran leader calls for an ecumenical council to address growing biblical fundamentalism

Contributed by Religion News Service Thursday, 11 August 2005

The leader of the nation's largest Lutheran denomination has called for a global Christian council to address an "identity crisis" on how churches interpret and understand the Bible.


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Lutheran leader calls for an ecumenical council to address growing biblical fundamentalism

Contributed by Religion News Service Thursday, 11 August 2005

The leader of the nation's largest Lutheran denomination has called for a global Christian council to address an "identity crisis" on how churches interpret and understand the Bible.

Presiding Bishop Mark Hanson of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America -- one of the UCC's partner denomations -- called for Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican and Lutheran churches to come together to combat a "fundamentalist-millenialist-apocalypticist reading of Scripture."

Hanson made his pitch for the ecumenical council on Aug. 9 during the ELCA's Churchwide Assembly in Orlando, Fla. Hanson is also president of the Geneva-based Lutheran World Federation.

"Christianity is in the midst of a global identity crisis because we have not addressed ecumenically the questions of authority and interpretation of scripture," Hanson said.

Hanson said he was echoing the call of the Rev. Duane Larson, president of Wartburg Theological Seminary, an ELCA institution in Dubuque, Iowa.

Although Hanson did not elaborate, mainline churches traditionally are uneasy with literal readings of Scripture, particularly in fundamentalist churches, regarding the end of the world and political unrest in the Middle East. In addition, mainline churches have been divided over what the Bible says about hot-button issues such as homosexuality and women's ordination.

Hanson also urged the Vatican to work with the Lutheran World Federation to develop a joint statement on the Eucharist to mark the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation in 2017. The two sides issued a landmark statement on salvation in 1999.

In a State of the Church address to Lutheran delegates, Hanson urged greater cooperation with other churches, but also noted that one stumbling block -- particularly with Catholics and Orthodox churches -- was non-negotiable.

"In all of our ecumenical relations, let us be clear that the ordination of women now in its 35th year is a gift we bring to ecumenical relationships that we pray others will receive," he said to applause.

-- Kevin Eckstrom, Religion News Service

1 posted on 08/20/2005 4:17:15 PM PDT by gscc
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To: gscc

As a Evangelical Christian I have no problem with Biblical Interpretation. Why doe ELCA have a problem? Perhaps they are a little liberal?


2 posted on 08/20/2005 4:23:04 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches, hard to get rid of.>)
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To: gscc
"Christianity is in the midst of a global identity crisis because we have not addressed ecumenically the questions of authority and interpretation of scripture," Hanson said.

Translation: "We haven't yet found a way to rewrite scripture to satisfy our itching ears & wayward morals...but we're working on it."

3 posted on 08/20/2005 4:23:12 PM PDT by madison10
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To: gscc

The ELCA is looking for a way avoid taking any controversial stand on the matter.


4 posted on 08/20/2005 4:33:43 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: gscc; TonyRo76; SmithL; Honorary Serb
This Presiding Bishop complained during the supposedly unbiased study on homosexuality that "this issue involves more than seven verses of scripture " then, when the responses to the sodomite agenda of allowing blessings of same sex unions and ordination of non-celibate gays, complained that "our people really don't know how to read scripture."

A true Ecumenical Council in the tradition of Nicea and Ephesus would be a wonderful thing: it would show this leader just how far out of step he is from global Christendom. In such grand tradition it might even lead to excommunication and condemnation as a heretic.

5 posted on 08/20/2005 4:50:41 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: gscc

The ELCA's "identity crisis" is a direct result of its efforts to be socially-relevant instead of Biblically-relevant.


6 posted on 08/20/2005 4:57:13 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: gscc
Lutheran leader calls for an ecumenical council to address growing biblical fundamentalism

Since when has regarding the absolutes of the Bible become an unacceptable alternative?

Ecumenism is about nothing but power and expansion through diluting The Word.

7 posted on 08/20/2005 5:07:32 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Ecumenism is simple arithmetic. One dying denomination plus one dying denomination = one temporarily solvent denomination able to pay the bills for a little while longer.
8 posted on 08/20/2005 5:13:41 PM PDT by gscc
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To: gscc

Agree on how to interpret the Bible? Protestants don't even use the same Bible the Church used for the last 2,000 years. How can we agree? What cloud is this guy on?


9 posted on 08/20/2005 5:24:07 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: gscc

Hey I must be a Bible fundamentalist. I believe "This is My Body, this is My Blood". Really not symbols.


10 posted on 08/20/2005 5:29:26 PM PDT by ex-snook (Protectionism is Patriotism in both war and trade.)
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To: ex-snook

Undermining the authority of Scripture is a key component to many of the mainline Protestant denominations in their quest to rewrite God's Word in order to broaden their appeal and fills the empty pews.


11 posted on 08/20/2005 5:36:32 PM PDT by gscc
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To: gscc

Bishop Hansen may not quite understand the way Catholics and Orthodox understand ecumenical councils.

If the Catholics and the Orthodox were to agree to an ecumenical council together, pretty much only the Catholics and the Orthodox would be invited as full participants (maybe some Oriental Churches, that's about it).

Certainly, the fellow heading the ELCA would not have any more status than "welcome guest and observer."


12 posted on 08/20/2005 5:38:50 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: gscc

As a Catholic, I have serious issues with a Lutheran bishop pretending to call an Ecumenical Council. I have an even more serious issue with what the Lutheran bishop is complaining about.


13 posted on 08/20/2005 6:09:50 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: gscc
Although Hanson did not elaborate, mainline churches traditionally are uneasy with literal readings of Scripture

Mainline churches have no idea how irrelevant they have become!

14 posted on 08/20/2005 6:47:53 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: gscc

***called for Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican and Lutheran churches to come together to combat a "fundamentalist-millenialist-apocalypticist reading of Scripture***

The "fundamentalists" are the least of his worries.

He would do better to spend his attentions on avoiding the scalding hell that will be his the moment he closes his eyes in death should he fail to repent.


15 posted on 08/20/2005 7:05:34 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: golfisnr1

Bishop Hansen is smarter than God. He wants to write his own Bible. It will say that homosexuality is a gift from God to the church, just like the lesbian clergy, and the only sin in Hansen's Bible will be intollerance.


16 posted on 08/20/2005 7:13:12 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: gscc
I fear they {ELCA and other liberal churches} will use the oldest trick in the Book.
Those famous words in the Garden of Eden, "Did God really say...?"
18 posted on 08/20/2005 7:16:14 PM PDT by labette (A living, breathing, constitution is the model of doublespeak.)
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To: lightman

ECUSA and the ELCA don't believe there is such a thing as "heresy" because of course, that implies absolutes. They are way past absolutes, the poor lost souls.


19 posted on 08/20/2005 7:16:34 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib
It is every bit that bad, plus based on the logical fallacy that "the only absolute is that there are no absolutes."

Challenging that muddled thinking is heresy; as is standing firm that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life against the denominations' infatuation with multiculturalism, pluralism, diversity, and, of course, "tolerance"
22 posted on 08/20/2005 7:34:47 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat
As a Lutheran, I have serious issues with the President of the Lutheran World Federation considering himself an equal player with the Patriarch of the East and the Bishop of Rome; particularly since he snubbed the invitation to attend the Requiem for John Paul II (it fell on the same day as the ELCA Church Council meeting which led to the pro-sodomite local option Ordination proposal fiasco).

If he were half the world figure he presumes to be, he would have known that his proper place on April 15 was in Rome, not Chicago, building up the body of Christ, not promoting its division.
23 posted on 08/20/2005 7:42:03 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: lightman

How is he elected, by the other bishops of the ELCA? And which Lutheran denominations does he represent, I assume he doesn't represent Missouri or Wisconsin Synod Lutherans, am I correct?


25 posted on 08/20/2005 8:20:16 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: gscc

Perhaps it is to be considered an encouragement when

the RELIGIOUS, tradition, form focused

start getting concerned

about those who take The Bible at face value and earnestly try and apply it in faithful practical ways in their lives whereupon God responds in miraculous and marvelous ways.


26 posted on 08/20/2005 8:24:34 PM PDT by Quix (TIMES R A CHANGING! THE BIBLE GIVES THE OUTLINE AHEAD PRAY, PREPARE)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat
The Presiding Bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America is elected for a six-year term by the 1018 Voting Members (1/3 clergy, which include the 65 Synodical Bishops; 1/3 lay female, 1/3 lay male). The process is a modified ecclesiastical ballot: as the voting progresses, the number of candidates is culled and the number of valid ballots required for election declines from an intial high of 75% to 50% plus one vote. Hanson election in 2001 did not come to pass until the field had been greatly pared and the bar had been greatly lowered. He narrowly defeated Southwest Pennsylvania Synod Bishop Don McCoid, a staunch conservative. One can only imagine how different things would be....

The Lutheran World Federation in headquartered in Geneva and the presidency tends to rotate around the member churches with the greatest numbers. It was mostly serendipitous that Hanson assumed its Presidency; it was simply North America's "turn" to hold that office and Hanson happened to be leading the largest Lutheran body on this continent.

Bishop Hanson stands for re-election in 2007. Conservative Lutherans, arise; get yourselves elected at your 2006 Synod Assemblies as Voting Members to the 2007 Churchwide Assembly which will be in Chicago.
27 posted on 08/20/2005 8:33:50 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: gscc
In a State of the Church address to Lutheran delegates, Hanson urged greater cooperation with other churches, but also noted that one stumbling block -- particularly with Catholics and Orthodox churches -- was non-negotiable.

"In all of our ecumenical relations, let us be clear that the ordination of women now in its 35th year is a gift we bring to ecumenical relationships that we pray others will receive," he said to applause.

It could be a joke if the guy weren't so serious: first, one expects the non-negotiable item to be, maybe, sola fide or sola scriptura, you know, a Lutheran distinctive or something? Nope, it's women's ordination, which the good bishop proudly reminds us, has been around for a whopping thirty-five years! Quite a gift! I mean, how did the Orthodox and Catholics- heck even the Protestants- make it for all those years? For 1,950 years the Church lacked this wonderful "gift," only lately discovered and verified, all without even so much as an Ecumenical Council. Wow.

28 posted on 08/20/2005 8:34:29 PM PDT by Cleburne (May you live in interesting times)
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To: lightman
Bishop Hanson stands for re-election in 2007. Conservative Lutherans, arise; get yourselves elected at your 2006 Synod Assemblies as Voting Members to the 2007 Churchwide Assembly which will be in Chicago.

Do you really think you can get the ELCA away from the National Council of churches? That has to be done before you can even have a prayer of reversing this apostasy.

29 posted on 08/20/2005 8:55:27 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I like the motto of Jefferson Smith in "Mr. Smith goes to Washington": "Lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for."

I used to compare the fate of the ELCA to the Titanic, but more and more I believe the correct analogy is Flight 93 of September 11, 2001. The plane has been hijacked, but "let's roll!"


30 posted on 08/20/2005 9:07:20 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: golfisnr1

Where does this gentleman get his warrant to interpret the Scriptures in any way other than a literal, normal usage of language (which allows for metaphor, poetry, etc., and yet reads historical narrative unmatched anywhere in human experience)?


31 posted on 08/20/2005 9:22:56 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: golfisnr1

I'm with you, evangelical and I have no problem with understanding the Bible.


32 posted on 08/20/2005 9:24:11 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (If you think you're having a bad day, try crucifixtion.)
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To: labette

I think much like liberals try to twist facts to fit their politics, this clergyman is trying to twist the word of God to fit his agenda.


33 posted on 08/20/2005 9:27:30 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (If you think you're having a bad day, try crucifixtion.)
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To: TonyRo76; Honorary Serb; redgolum
We Evangelicals are not your enemies; the devil is

I didn't say that Evangelicals are my enemies. I said that we cannot agree on the interpretation of the Bible if the Bible we use is not the same. We are not reading the same book.

34 posted on 08/20/2005 10:04:11 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat
As a Catholic, I have serious issues with a Lutheran bishop pretending to call an Ecumenical Council

Never mind the Ecumenical Council, how can a Lutheran be a bishop? Lutherans do not have the authority passed on by Apostolic Succession. They have no valid priesthood either.

35 posted on 08/20/2005 10:09:32 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: madison10
Translation: "We haven't yet found a way to rewrite scripture to satisfy our itching ears & wayward morals...but we're working on it."

Well said!

36 posted on 08/20/2005 10:10:28 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

Since we are discussing Biblical Authority I can't find the office of Bishop in the Scriptures nor do I see Apostolic Succession or even the concept. I do see Elders and Deacons and I believe the doctrine of the Priesthood of Believers is clear. How about some Scripture?


37 posted on 08/20/2005 10:26:39 PM PDT by gscc
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To: sitetest
Bishop Hansen may not quite understand the way Catholics and Orthodox understand ecumenical councils. If the Catholics and the Orthodox were to agree to an ecumenical council together, pretty much only the Catholics and the Orthodox would be invited as full participants (maybe some Oriental Churches, that's about it). Certainly, the fellow heading the ELCA would not have any more status than "welcome guest and observer."

Not only has he invited himself, he dis-invited us, since he only wants "Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican and Lutheran churches" -- excluding evangelicals, fundamentalists, and others of Nonconformist or Reformed roots. Which is just as well, since we wouldn't show up anyway.

But it does raise a question. If the whole point is to set us straight, and we don't go and don't recognize the proceedings as binding on us, just how does he intend to make it stick?

Either he hasn't thought this through (which is probably it) or he's got something sinister in mind.

38 posted on 08/20/2005 10:37:35 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: Diego1618

--Mainline churches have no idea how irrelevant they have become!--

"Mainline" churches have become more and more fringe and less and less "mainline" in the sense of dominant, anyway. Some of them (at least in the seminaries and leadership) act, talk and behave (and no doubt believe) like Christ and the scriptures are irrelevant, anyway. I wonder why some of them bother to call themselves Christian any more...


39 posted on 08/20/2005 10:46:22 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
also noted that one stumbling block -- particularly with Catholics and Orthodox churches -- was non-negotiable.

"In all of our ecumenical relations, let us be clear that the ordination of women now in its 35th year is a gift we bring to ecumenical relationships that we pray others will receive," he said to applause.

What Hanson fails to comprehend is that the Catholic and Orthodox Churches believe in transubstantiation. Our liturgies were instituted by Christ at the Last Supper and He passed the priesthood on to men. In the words of consecration: 'This is my body' (literal interpretation of Scripture), the priest speaks sacramentally 'in the person of Christ' (in persona Christi), it is Jesus who consecrates the host through the priest who is an instrument only. Thus, since it is Jesus who says, 'This is my body', the priest through whom Christ speaks must also be male otherwise the very meaning of the mass is distorted and perverted.

Hanson was correct in one regard. This issue is non negotiable.

40 posted on 08/21/2005 12:12:59 AM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: gscc
Lutheran Leader Calls for Council to Address Growing Problem of Christians Believing What Christians Have Always Believed

How can there be a "growing" problem of something that was more waidespread than it is now?

41 posted on 08/21/2005 12:15:22 AM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: gscc; StAthanasiustheGreat; PetroniusMaximus
Bishop Hanson of the ELCA is leader of a denomination that pays for its lady ministers to have abortions.

I am absolutely serious.

42 posted on 08/21/2005 4:04:35 AM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: nickcarraway

ping to my number 42


43 posted on 08/21/2005 4:05:13 AM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: NYer

ping to my No. 42


44 posted on 08/21/2005 4:06:15 AM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: gscc; All

From the article: "Presiding Bishop Mark Hanson of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America -- one of the UCC's partner denomations -- called for Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican and Lutheran churches to come together to combat a "fundamentalist-millenialist-apocalypticist reading of Scripture."

I think we should politely decline the invitation. I don't think that the "fundamentalist-millenialist-apocalypticist reading of Scripture" is nearly as problematic or dangerous as the new-age, homoerotic, radical feminist theology that seems to have taken hold in many "mainstream" Protestant sects.

I can work with and learn from someone with a strong scriptural background. There's not much I can do with someone whose theology changes by the nanosecond to conform with an ever-devolving sense of political correctness.

I have no doubt that if the radical left were to embrace the "virtues" of cannibalism next week, it would take some of their "mainstream" theological fellow travelers about two days to create some specious theological basis to justify it and promote it.

I'm not a biblical fundamentalist; I'm Catholic and glad of it. Given the choice between biblical fundamentalism and the alternatives likely to be proposed by this gentleman, I'll take biblical fundamentalism any day of the week.


45 posted on 08/21/2005 4:59:42 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy)
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To: gscc; kosta50
Since we are discussing Biblical Authority I can't find the office of Bishop in the Scriptures nor do I see Apostolic Succession or even the concept. I do see Elders and Deacons and I believe the doctrine of the Priesthood of Believers is clear. How about some Scripture?

How about some early Church Fathers.

APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION & TRADITION

"Through Our Lord Jesus Christ our Apostles knew that there would be strife over the office of episcopacy.  Accordingly, since they had obtained a perfect foreknowledge of this, they appointed those men already mentioned.  And they afterwards gave instructions that when those men would fall asleep, other approved men should succeed them in their ministry.  Therefore, we are of the opinion that those appointed by the Apostles, or afterwards by other acclaimed men, with the consent of the whole church, and who have blamelessly served the flock of Christ in a humble, peaceable, and disinterested spirit, and have for a long time possessed the good opinion of all, cannot be justly dismissed from the ministry."  St. Clement Of Rome ("The Epistle Of Clement To The Corinthians," c. 96 A.D.)

"When we refer them to that tradition which originates from the Apostles, which is preserved by means of the succession of presbyters in the churches, they object to tradition, saying that they themselves are wiser not merely than the presbyters, but than even the Apostles."  St. Irenaeus ("Against All Heresies," c. 180 A.D.)

"Therefore, it is within the power of all in every church who may wish to see the truth to examine clearly the tradition of the Apostles manifested throughout the whole world.  And we are in a position to reckon up those who were instituted bishops in the churches  by the Apostles, and the succession of these men to our own times....  For if the Apostles had known hidden mysteries...they would have delivered them especially to those to whom they were also committing the churches themselves.  For they were desirous that these men should be very perfect and blameless in all things, whom also they were leaving behind as their successors, delivering up their own place of government to these men."  St. Irenaeus ("Against All Heresies," c. 180 A.D.)

APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION

46 posted on 08/21/2005 5:02:37 AM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

I asked for scripture.


47 posted on 08/21/2005 6:51:33 AM PDT by gscc
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To: gscc
Apostolic Succession was in place before the canon was closed. Those quotes are from some of the people who along the years helped filter out the sacred from the not when it comes to scripture. In fact, St. Clement's quote comes from before the last books of the new testament were written.

This is part of what would be called non-negotiable topics, I suppose. It's Tradition, that which was revealed and handed down. It's not something that can be changed.

48 posted on 08/21/2005 7:00:22 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: gscc; NYer
Those were the guys that decided what would BE Scripture (and not the Gnostic "gospels" or the Gospel of Thomas or the Gospel of the childhood of Christ, etc.)

They are closer to Christ and the Apostles than the Bible.

49 posted on 08/21/2005 7:05:51 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: golfisnr1
I once heard that one demonination was based, in part, on the statement sola scriptura. I wonder which one that was? Hint: Martin Luther founded it.
50 posted on 08/21/2005 7:21:45 AM PDT by superdad
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