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1 posted on 08/20/2005 11:56:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
It's a very simple faith.


2 posted on 08/21/2005 12:04:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: nickcarraway

It's hard to put much credence in an Arab media's report of Islamic conversion by an anonymous priest.


3 posted on 08/21/2005 12:35:34 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: nickcarraway
How's this for a simple funeral:

Rub a dub dub, so long bud!

Anybody converted?

4 posted on 08/21/2005 12:38:35 AM PDT by Nateman
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To: nickcarraway

Pure BS...Or...He's a spy for the Vatican!


5 posted on 08/21/2005 2:28:33 AM PDT by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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To: nickcarraway
Okay, I just want to get the rules and procedures straight here. If you convert to Islam from Christianity are you automatically sentenced to death?

No, wait, it's when you convert FROM the religion of tolerance and peace TO Christianity that you get sentenced to death. I just get so confused. It's SO counter-intuitive.

I know there's a mosque in Rome. Off hand can anybody tell me how many Christian churches there are in Mecca? Just asking ...

6 posted on 08/21/2005 3:22:46 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Allahu Fubar! (with apologies to Sheik Yerbouty))
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But the simple royal funeral shook me and changed my mind,” Malik quoted the priest as saying.

I guess he never saw the Ayatollah Khomeni's funeral

9 posted on 08/21/2005 7:54:14 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Parkhill's Waterfront Grill delenda est (pour encourager les autres)))
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To: nickcarraway

How anyone could view the filth known as islam and be moved by it, is beyond me...

For the truth about islam, visit The Flanstein:

http://flanstein.blogspot.com


11 posted on 08/21/2005 9:07:39 AM PDT by Dr. Luv (QQ)
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To: nickcarraway

That's funny. I can't find any record of him ever being a priest, just a diplomat:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.esteri.it/eng/4_29_190_94_142_203.asp&prev=/search%3Fq%3DTorquato%2BCardilli%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DRNWE,RNWE:2005-01,RNWE:en

Also this:

Rome's Envoy to Saudi Arabia Converts to Islam
By Luke Baker

ROME (Reuters) - Italy's ambassador to Saudi Arabia has converted to Islam, the
second time in seven years that an envoy of Rome to the land of Mecca has
adopted its religion.

Torquato Cardilli, a career diplomat from overwhelmingly Roman Catholic Italy,
revealed his decision to Saudi newspapers Saturday, his 59th birthday. Italian
diplomatic sources confirmed the announcement Monday.

His official conversion was made on the eve of the Islamic holy fasting month
of Ramadan, which began on November 16 in Saudi Arabia. Cardilli himself could
not be reached for comment but an employee at his embassy in Riyadh confirmed
the reports.

The Saudi embassy in Rome said it planned a statement later. An embassy
spokeswoman said there was no record of any Saudi ambassador to Italy ever
converting to Catholicism.

Italy's Foreign Ministry had no comment.

The conversion of Cardilli -- who is married with two children -- follows the
move to Islam made by Mario Scialoja, Italian ambassador to the Arab kingdom in
1994-95, who has since left the foreign service and is head of Italy's Muslim
League.

Scialoja's decision came as a shock, made while he was Rome's permanent
representative to the United Nations (news - web sites) in New York and long
before he was posted to Riyadh.

Cardilli's change of faith follows years of study of Islam. A graduate in
oriental culture and languages from the University of Naples, Cardilli has
spent much of his 33-year diplomatic career in the Muslim world.

Following postings in Sudan, Syria, Iraq and Libya, he took over the embassy in
Riyadh in October last year. Cardilli has also served as ambassador to Albania
and Tanzania.

His personal move comes at a sensitive time, with Italy a member of the U.S.-
led coalition fighting the hardline Islamic Taliban movement in Afghanistan
(news - web sites) and barely two months after Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi
offended the Muslim world by saying Western Christian civilization was
superior .

Corriere della Sera newspaper said Cardilli had been recalled to Rome ``for
consultations.'' Some 3,000 to 5,000 Italians have converted to Islam from
Catholicism in recent years, according to figures from the Union of Islamic
Organizations and Communities. A spokesman for the Italy-based group said it
welcomed Cardilli's entry into the Muslim community, saying of his conversion:
``The ways of the Lord are infinite.''

Source: http://www.cafearabica.com/wwwboard/social/messages/5264.html

Maybe he was a priest a long time ago, I can't find any record though... and I have a directory.

If you find it, ping me.


12 posted on 08/21/2005 11:49:39 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: nickcarraway

Obviously his faith was not strong if he could ditch his for such a superficial reason...


18 posted on 08/21/2005 7:06:38 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: nickcarraway
Uh, what's his name?

He said he believed the king’s funeral would change the mind of many others. He urged Muslim media to focus on stories related to Islam’s tolerance and equality in order to attract more people to the religion.

Yeah. Well, even if we don't know his name, we know he's either a born liar or supremely naive. Either of which make one a perfect candidate for TRoP.
24 posted on 09/07/2005 11:42:26 AM PDT by Antoninus (Dominus Iesus, miserere nobis.)
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Maybe he converted, thinking he will do better with the young boys under islam.

Seems to be a shared cultural thing, priests and arabs.


31 posted on 09/10/2005 11:40:37 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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"was impressed by the lack of pomp and pageantry in the royal funeral"

What this "priest" don't realize is that all of Islam is "a lack of pomp and pageantry", kind of like living in the 7th century.


40 posted on 09/12/2005 4:15:56 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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as u've started this, I suppose I should address u now and I believe everybody else will read this too. I think my mission here is finished and I have nobody else to debate with as none of u have been able to provide any logical, clear and sensible arguments to me. besides, I'm flying out to Europe tomorrow morning InshaAllah and I don't think I'll be able to check Internet there for the next 3 weeks as I am scheduled to be quite busy. however, if anybody wants to offer their arguments or to confute mine, I'll be glad to continue talking to more or less intelligent people in a decent manner when I come back in 3 weeks. just give me a shout. Assalamu Aleikum (peace to u) and bye-byeeee!


67 posted on 09/21/2005 9:36:48 PM PDT by alma88
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