Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: XeniaSt; DouglasKC; Diego1618; laney
1. Do you rest and praise the L-rd on the day He requires or on some man-defined day?

On the day He requires, after the practice of the apostles.

"Very early in the morning, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen." (Mark 16:2)

"Then, the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them, 'Peace be with you.'" (John 20:19)

"Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight." (Acts 20:7)

"On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come." (1 Cor. 16:2)

There is no record in Scripture of the early church meeting on the last day of the week for the "breaking of bread" and to hear the apostles' teaching. We do have a record of Paul going to the place of the Jews on their "Sabbath" in order to reason with them about Jesus Christ. But that was not the Church. They were unbelieving Jews. We do not follow unbelievers in their worship patterns.

2. Do you celebrate the feasts of the L-rd or pagan holidays as defined by man ? e.g. Easter and Christmas.

I do not celebrate Christmas and Easter as religious holy days. I celebrate the only legitimate "holy day" under the new covenant, that is, the Lord's Day which is the new covenant Sabbath.

77 posted on 09/28/2005 7:13:24 PM PDT by topcat54
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies ]


To: topcat54
On the day He requires, after the practice of the apostles.

That would be Saturday, The Sabbath as all the Apostles did.

"Very early in the morning, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen." (Mark 16:2)

Verse 6 says. "Don't be alarmed," he said. "You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him." Notice this verse is in the past tense as our saviour had risen the previous sunset, Sabbath Day, 72 hours after his entombment on Wednesday the 14 of Nisan.

Then, the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled, for fear of the Jews

Notice this is not a religious gathering....it is because of the fear of the Jews.

"Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight." (Acts 20:7)

Did you notice that Paul spoke until midnight. According to the Hebrews, midnight on the first day of the week, would be Saturday night.

"On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come." (1 Cor. 16:2)

Paul is simply telling them to save some of their materiel blessings for the folks in Jerusalem...see also Romans 15: No religious service here.

There is no record in Scripture of the early church meeting on the last day of the week for the "breaking of bread" and to hear the apostles' teaching.

No, but there is much scripture devoted to observing the the Feast Days of The Lord.

I celebrate the only legitimate "holy day" under the new covenant, that is, the Lord's Day which is the new covenant Sabbath.

You celebrate Sunday from your traditions....you will not find it in scripture or will you ever find The New Testament Church of God celebrating the Day of the Sun.

81 posted on 09/28/2005 8:46:18 PM PDT by Diego1618
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies ]

To: topcat54; Diego1618; XeniaSt; laney
"Then, the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them, 'Peace be with you.'" (John 20:19)

Why were the disciples assembled? For a religious service? No, FOR FEAR OF THE JEWS.

"Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight." (Acts 20:7)

This is Saturday night. Breaking bread is a generic term used for a meal. We still use it today. This is merely fellowship after the sabbath, which ended at sunset. There is no mention of any kind of religious service. Incidentally I thought you might find Acts 20:6, the previous verse, interesting:

Act 20:6 We sailed from Philippi after the days of Unleavened Bread, and came to them at Troas within five days; and there we stayed seven days.

Interesting how Luke marks the time in a Christian holy book by citing a festival that supposedly no Christian kept.

"On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come." (1 Cor. 16:2)

Paul apparently isn't coming on the first day of the week since he tells them to collect goods. It's not like a Sunday pass the plate collection because here's the next verse:

1Co 16:3 When I arrive, whomever you may approve, I will send them with letters to carry your gift to Jerusalem;

Paul is taking the stuff the Corinthians collect to Jerusalam. Why? Here's why:

Act 11:28 One of them named Agabus stood up and began to indicate by the Spirit that there would certainly be a great famine all over the world. And this took place in the reign of Claudius.
Act 11:29 And in the proportion that any of the disciples had means, each of them determined to send a contribution for the relief of the brethren living in Judea.
Act 11:30 And this they did, sending it in charge of Barnabas and Saul to the elders.

There ya go. There was a famine in Judea. Paul tells each of the churches to collect food and stuff for the brethren in Jerusalem. Kind of like relief effort for hurricane Katrina or Rita.

What has happened topcat is that you look at these verses through the backwards lens of tradition and history. Tradition and history have "evolved" the sabbath from the seventh day COMMANDED and CREATED by the Lord God to the first day of the week, created by man.

89 posted on 09/29/2005 4:58:43 PM PDT by DouglasKC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson