How I led Catholics Out of the Church

Catholic Educators ^ | September 2005 | Steve Wood

[Petrosius]

[E]ither I would be Catholic, or not Christian at all. You either trust these men who gave us the Scriptures and oral teachings from Christ, or you don't - and then the Bible can't be trusted either.

Kind of says it all!

[fortunecookie]

No, it misleads and falsifies.

...with really loaded questions.

[Petronski]

I thought the listening device was in the rosary beads.

I think that's the hard drive...

[netmilsmom]

>>I thought the listening device was in the rosary beads<<

Only the string ones. That's why we make so many for the missions.

[Uriah_lost]

The only way I can see this thread not turning into more of a flame-war is if we can hijack it with irreverent humor and/or making fun of the life-or-death-must-fight types.

[VermiciousKnid]

There is one nearby (in fact, closer than my own home parish). I may have to consider going, though I hesitate because of the kids.

Remember that I am already firmly entrenched in the Latin Rite, and I had hoped to entrench my children in it as well.

It's a big step that will require much thought.

Thanks for the helpful suggestion,
Regards,

[netmilsmom]

>>It gives us the extra strength we need to butcher you in your sleep<<

Hehehe!

Good night to you and your lovely.

[Petronski]

She's asleep on LI. I'm awake here in PA.


Tooooooo far.

But thanks, and all the best to you too. ;O)

[jo kus]

Is this like putting our good deeds on a scale or balance against our bad deeds?

It was an analogy, not meant to perfectly describe the condition we are under in regards to salvation.

Are you a parent? How do you judge whether you kid is good? Do you expect perfection? Neither does God, and we are God's children (adopted) as a result of Baptism. We are under a different system - the system of Grace, not the Law. Under the Law, men try to earn their way to heaven by attempting to perfectly fulfill the law. Under the system of Grace, God views us as children. If we please Him with faith and good deeds, He will judge us as righteous (which is not from ourselves but relies on our cooperation with His grace).

The balance scale refers to the legal idea, the system of Law. We don't list our child's faults and make a legal decision on whether they are "good" or not. God uses different guidelines. Do we have faith in Him? Do we have childlike trust in Him? Do we obey His commandments out of love for Him (rather than trying to earn)? Do we try to please God? We CAN know generally our direction - but we must persevere.

Brother in Christ

[NYer]

although the Orthodox have all the Sacraments, the Apostolic Succession, and revere the Mother of God. (In foreign languages, too!)

As do the Eastern Catholic Churches like mine, the Maronite Catholic Church :-) (Consecration in Aramaic using the words and language or our Lord at the Last Supper). You get any closer than that!

[Petronski]

You are wise. :O)

[It's me]

I don't know where Jack Chick is eventually going, but he will certainly be surprised by the number of folks who made it to Heaven despite his repetitive publication of false witness against them.

Well, I kinda wonder if he'll even get to see the number of people who made it to heaven.

wink, wink

[annalex]

not in my Bible

Online Douay-Rheims Bible

I cannot recommend Douay enough. First, it is a complete Canon of the Scriptures. Second, it is word-by-word rendition of Jerome's Vulgate. If you want to know what the Catholic Church knew and taught through the ages, regardless of your personal convictions and opinions, unless you are fluent in Latin, read Douay. You will find subtle and sometimes not so subtle differences with King James. Instead of banal "elders" you'll see "priests". Mary is "full of grace", not "highly favoured one". Even its chief shortcoming, -- somewhat awkward English -- is the result of its following the Latin Vulgate.

[DocRock]

Thanks for your reply. It is well thought out and well written for ease of understanding.

Regards,

[cyborg]

amazing post...quite humbling actually.

[visually_augmented]

My statement was meant to insinuate that most Assemblies of God would adhere to Sola Scriptura. I think it is the Roman Catholic view that this belief (Sola Scriptura)is "people relying on their own interpretation".

[DocRock]

Thanks for the reference, but it has no books with Sir, so I'm still lost...

[It's me]

Yes indeed be careful. The Catholics have glowing red eyes and eat Protestant children as well.

Awww, geeeez! Why did you have to go and tell themTHAT part!

[NYer]

I was a protestant and am now a Catholic

Welcome home!

[It's me]

After we strangle them with our Rosary beads and offer them up to a statue of the Virgin Mary.

Will you guys STOP GIVING OUT ALL OUR SECRETS!!!