How I led Catholics Out of the Church

Catholic Educators ^ | September 2005 | Steve Wood

[cyborg]

funniest post ever

[okokie]

But be careful. The Catholics on this site hate being challenged and will turn nasty quick if you challenge them.

no not nasty they(we) will defend our faith...

[It's me]

Right. And people who are drowning can read a short pamphlet on "Gripping Heavy Stones."

HA HA HA HA Thanks, that was good.

[Petronski]

Thanks dear. Get me the other waterstone, your machete isn't honed quite sufficiently.

[annalex]

Sirach is also known as Ecclesiasticus. There are a few other discrepancies like that, e.g. there are four Kings instead of two Solomon and two Kings.

Sir. 16:12-14

12 For mercy and wrath are with him. He is mighty to forgive, and to pour out indignation:
13 According as his mercy is, so his correction judgeth a man according to his works.
14 The sinner shall not escape in his rapines, and the patience of him that sheweth mercy shall not be put off.

Sir. 35:19

19 For from the cheek they go up even to heaven, and the Lord that heareth will not be delighted with them.

[rollinginmybuggy]

Let's make a list of famous Catholics.

I'll start.

Ted Kennedy
John Kerry



Your turn...

[annalex]

You are too much. Get married already.

[NYer]

I am, after all, in the Diocese of Rockville Centre (Long Island), so...there's not too much for such as me.

You have my sympathies! I grew up in the Diocese of Rockville Centre before, during and after it turned quite liberal. Believe it or not, I left it for the Diocese of Albany which is considerably worse. (A former neighbor cautioned me before the move 14 years ago but I paid him little heed until i arrived up here ... ugh!)

For what it's worth, after 12 years of abject misery in a diocese run by one of Jadot's appointees, I tested the waters of the Eastern Catholic Churches and lost my heart and soul to the beauty, reverence and orthodoxy of their liturgy. I was most fortunate to find 2 Eastern Catholic churches within proximity of home but am now permanently ensconced in the Maronite Church. Our pastor is bi-ritual (Maronite and Latin), speaks 8 contemporary languages fluently and has a BA in Biblical Linguistics (Koine Greek, Hebrew, Latin and Aramaic). Try to imagine, if you can, a small community of 48 families with a priest on call 24 hours a day.

There are several Eastern Catholic parishes on LI but you may have to drive a distance to reach them. May I make a recommendation? The Catholic Church is both Western and Eastern. As most of us realize, the Church began in the East. Our Lord lived and died and resurrected in the Holy Land. The Church spread from Jerusalem throughout the known world. As the Church spread, it encountered different cultures and adapted, retaining from each culture what was consistent with the Gospel. In the city of Alexandria, the Church became very Egyptian; in Antioch it remained very Jewish; in Rome it took on an Italian appearance and in the Constantinople it took on the trappings of the Roman imperial court. All the churches which developed this way were Eastern, except Rome. Most Catholics in the United States have their roots in Western Europe where the Roman rite predominated. It has been said that the Eastern Catholic Churches are "the best kept secret in the Catholic Church."

The Vatican II Council declared that "all should realize it is of supreme importance to understand, venerate, preserve, and foster the exceedingly rich liturgical and spiritual heritage of the Eastern churches, in order faithfully to preserve the fullness of Christian tradition" (Unitatis Redintegrato, 15). Pope John Paul II said that "the Catholic Church is both Eastern and Western."

Check your local community at the following link and look into attending an Eastern Catholic Liturgy (not to be confused with the Orthodox Church).

Eastern Catholic Churches in the U.S.

The Eastern Catholic Rites retain the rich heritage of our church, without the "novelties" introduced into the Novus Ordo liturgy. Incense is used throughout.

I attend a Maronite Catholic Church. The Consecration is in Aramaic, using the words and language of our Lord at the Last Supper. Communion is ONLY distributed by the priest. It is by intinction (the priest dips the consecrated host into the Precious Blood) and is ONLY received on the tongue. The priest administers communion with the words: "The Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ is given to you for the remission of sin and eternal salvation".

A Roman Catholic may attend the Divine Liturgy at any Eastern Catholic Church. You can learn more about the 22 different liturgies at this link:

CATHOLIC RITES AND CHURCHES

[Petronski]

You are too much. Get married already.

Don't I wish! (36 weeks remaining...)

[Petronski]

You are too much. Get married already.

Don't I wish! (36 weeks remaining...)

[ladyinred]

I am once again appalled to see yet another thread turning into a free for all by those who represent Jesus Christ. One side is as bad as the other. What is the point of this? Why does this happen? I am ashamed of this, and you all should be also.

[DocRock]

Thanks,

Nite all,
I'm out for a while

[Uriah_lost]

It seems to me that those who choose to fight this fight at every opportunity reveal their own insecurities. Confidence in your own faith should allow you to let challenges to roll off your back. As I said before, I see no good coming of this thread.

[Jaded]

Not really. I have a friend who belongs to the Church of Christ. We know some of the same people and we were talking about them... (no not like that) and she said "they used to go to our church but now they go to ......" then she proceeded to tell me how this other church broke off from their Church of Christ because they were considered too conservative. Poof, just like that.... 'you don't like our interpretation of scripture go set up your own church'.

[AlaskaErik]

You can count me as a former Catholic who intends to remain a former Catholic forever.

Announce it again. I don't think you're showing quite enough desperation for attention.

You can count me as a former Catholic who intends to remain a former Catholic forever.

[Polybius]

As a Catholic, I believe that I was saved in baptism,[snip]

Is this the doctrine of the Catholic Church?

No.

Do Protestant churches teach that being "Born Again" and carrying a Bible automatically earns you a one-way ticket to Heaven no matter what you do afterwards?

If the Catholic Church taught that, I could have saved myself a lot of worry as a 14 year-old for lusting for Diana Rigg. :-)

[bahblahbah]

This isn't a "Catholic" thread.

[bahblahbah]

I don't see the Jews or the Orthodox spam this forum with blatant propaganda.

[DBeers]

Thanks, but I am not interested. All I ever need to know about islam I've learned by Sept 12/2001. And as for their theology - it is baboonery, like every other theology.

For one not interested you seem to make it a point to contribute anti-Christian bigotry when possible and without invitation or confrontation -unsolicited hatred...

I suggest you stay on the evolution type topics where you can at least attempt to hide your 'problem' --then again, you could post this type of garbage over at DU -they would appreciate your perspective over there...

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