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To: BibChr
Not sure when I've seen so many errors packed into an opening sentence.

No kidding. I've never seen such an oppressive article in my life. It starts with a supposition - Prophesy ended with the 'New Testament Church' and tries to further it.

The fact is that the Apostle Paul, John and our Lord Jesus Christ have all prophesied about things that have not happened yet. The convenient theological argument is to spiritual these writings and dismiss them as being fulfilled in the current New Testament Church.

This clearly denies the deity of Christ and that he is Lord, even in the future. For if Christ said that "all the tribes of the earth will morn" and it is only a few tribes on one section of the earth in 70AD, then he is made out to be less than God. The Apostle John clearly was writing about things to come. Paul said believers who would be alive would be taken up into the air when he comes and join the resurrected saints.

If this has already happened, then those who have died after 70AD have no hope of the resurrection.

Clearly this writer wants to convince us that the physical Kingdom of Christ is not coming and that the Old Testament and New Testament writings have only "Spiritual Meanings". The warnings to all nations and peoples to repent for "The great and terrible day of God" is coming, has no teeth. Yeah right, Blah, Blah, Blah.

No, after much scripture memorization, I too look forward to the "city, whose architect and builder is God", I look forward to seeing the "Great King" - the Lord Jesus on his throne, Jerusalem and the government "which shall have no end". To dismiss the prophesies of scripture and dilute them is not wise, because one faces Christ ultimately and how much should one suffer loss?

44 posted on 09/30/2005 12:40:47 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402
The convenient theological argument is to spiritual[ize] these writings and dismiss them as being fulfilled in the current New Testament Church.

Well, fully, what it does is: (A) spiritualize unfulfilled prophecies of blessing and take them for the Jew/Gentile Christian Church; but (B) leave the cursings all as literal, and all as applying to ethnic Israel only.

Neat, huh?

It is, I say seriously, the sort of "interpretation" we used to do in the New Age cult of Religious Science -- except, thankfully, they almost only do it on prophetic and Israel-related passages. When it comes to soteriological, theological passages, Reformed exegetes are as good as it gets.

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

49 posted on 09/30/2005 12:51:49 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: sr4402; BibChr; xzins; Frumanchu; HarleyD
It starts with a supposition - Prophesy ended with the 'New Testament Church' and tries to further it.

Jesus did come to "seal up prophecy".

"Seventy weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city, To finish the transgression, To make an end of sins, To make reconciliation for iniquity, To bring in everlasting righteousness, To seal up vision and prophecy, And to anoint the Most Holy." (Dan. 9:24)

The final week of Daniel 9 was the time of Christ's coming to redeem His people and establish His church of both Jews and gentiles, the true sons of Abraham.

Only the gap theorists can argue for "vision and prophecy" after the 1st century.

51 posted on 09/30/2005 12:52:11 PM PDT by topcat54
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