[blue-duncan]

I guess the answer is I haven't seen anyone here say that the present state of Israel is the definite fulfillment of specific prophecies. That would be contrary to Jesus' statement that only the father knows the definite time of His planned fulfillment. I think what is being said is that the return of Jews to Israel and the establishment of a people and place is part of the progressive fulfillment of prophecy, just like the progressive movement of history towards the RAPTURE. And won't you be surprised!

[xzins]

My understanding is that something like 80+ percent of the people now living in Israel were born there. Some % of that 80+ would be of Arab descent. (16%?) In the same way as our greatest generation is dying out, their WWII era population is slowly disappearing.

Which ones of those folks born there would not be citizens of the USA, if they were born in the USA (with apologies to Bruce Springsteen, of course.)?

They are the nation of Israel.

Israel is their home.