[mike182d]

It's from the article I posted the link to before, look it it up yourself or put me on the payroll as your research assistant. The article was quoting the preface written by Cardinal Ratzinger to the book The Reform of the Roman Liturgy , by Monsignor Klaus Gamber.

I will have to read this book, then.

Do you still think this statement of yours is true?

Yes. However, for the sake of clarity, I would replace "criticize" with "reject." My use of the word "criticism" was in regards to one's flat out rejection of the Novus Ordo as being valid. Certainly one can criticize the current Novus Ordo Mass as I do it quite frequently. I am not, however, attacking the Novus Ordo Mass as a whole.

Do you not find it curious that Ratzinger, after becoming Pope, has no intention of removing the Novus Ordo Mass? If Ratzinger thought of the Novus Ordo tragic in itself, I find it a very peculiar move as Supreme Pontiff to further insist on its usage despite objections by "Traditionalists."

[Pyro7480]

Do you not find it curious that Ratzinger, after becoming Pope, has no intention of removing the Novus Ordo Mass? If Ratzinger thought of the Novus Ordo tragic in itself, I find it a very peculiar move as Supreme Pontiff to further insist on its usage despite objections by "Traditionalists."

I would not be prudent for the Pope to "start with a clean slate" and "turn back the clock" to the pre-1965 Mass. On the surface, it would be seen as "counter-revolutionary," but in reality, it would be revolutionary, in the sense it would cause unneeded chaos in the Catholic Church. Changes need to be done carefully.

[murphE]

My use of the word "criticism" was in regards to one's flat out rejection of the Novus Ordo as being valid.

No one, at least not on this thread I think, has said that the NO was invalid. A satanic mass offered by a valid priest could be valid, in so much as transubstantiation occurs, but I wouldn't go to one.

Do you not find it curious that Ratzinger, after becoming Pope, has no intention of removing the Novus Ordo Mass? If Ratzinger thought of the Novus Ordo tragic in itself, I find it a very peculiar move as Supreme Pontiff to further insist on its usage despite objections by "Traditionalists."

I find many times that what people say one day contradicts what they will say another day. I find that many people are inclined to tailor their speech to appease the specific audience they are speaking to. I also find that many people often point to causes of a particular problem, say what they think should be done, but for any number of reasons don't do it.