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To: NYer
Toward the end of the exorcism, he turned to the evil spirit and sarcastically told him, "Get out of here. The Lord has already prepared a nice, well-heated house for you!" At this, the demon answered, "You do not know anything! It wasn't he (God) who made hell. It was us. He had not even thought about it." Similarly, on another occasion, while I was questioning a demon to know whether he had contributed to the creation of hell, I received this answer: "All of us cooperated."

Is this guy suggesting that he's believing the testimonies of demons? That he believes their words? Maybe I'm misreading it. The Bible says that hell was created for the devil and his demons. Not that the demons made up the whole thing, and one day God decided to go along with it. Demons never have any words to be believed, therfore, using them for spiritual truths is ridiculous

10 posted on 10/29/2005 9:03:11 AM PDT by gamarob1
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To: gamarob1
Is this guy suggesting that he's believing the testimonies of demons?

Excellent point. Just yesterday, I was reading a book about the ONLY verified and fully documented exorcism in the U.S. I believe it was in the 1940's in Nebraska and was made into a movie. In it, according to the author, the exorcist was NOT to converse with the demon. The Ritual of Exorcism highly suggested this because the devil is the father of lies. What would be the point of conversing with the demon if you couldn't tell when he was lying or not? I can't remember the title, I think it was POSSESSION, (I was "skimming" it at Barnes and Noble for nearly 90 minutes!), but the exorcism was a very long, frustrating, and exhaustive process. But the one time that the exorcist went against the advice of the Ritual and conversed with the devil, he later regretted it, as the devil caused frustration by his lies.

Thus, I have doubts on the story above regarding what the demons purported to have said. Of COURSE they want to us to believe that they created Hell without God's help! Isn't that the whole point of their sin, PRIDE? God's Word is the Scriptures. Turn to them, not the lies of the devil.

Regards

21 posted on 10/29/2005 3:04:13 PM PDT by jo kus
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To: gamarob1
Demons never have any words to be believed

That's not true.

Luke 4:41

Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, "You are the Son of God!" But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew he was the Christ.

But they certainly can't be trusted.
30 posted on 10/31/2005 7:41:40 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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