To: Antoninus
but a lever for kicking people out of seminary before they are ordained to the diaconate. Thanks, that's a positive take on it that I hadn't considered. I suppose the big (I mean BIG) problem with this or anything the Vatican orders is enforcement.
No matter what rulings come out of Rome, the bishops seem to feel quite free to ignore them. I don't know what teeth are going to be put into this; I think that will be the crucial point.
One hopes that BXVI's enforcement will be a little more energetic than that of his predecessor, but it is in any case a very difficult thing, particularly since the US bishops (and superiors) have been allowed to run amok for so many years. Even as we speak, they're probably sitting in bed reading this with a knowing smile prior to tossing it into the recycling bin.
17 posted on
11/23/2005 2:02:05 AM PST by
livius
To: livius
No matter what rulings come out of Rome, the bishops seem to feel quite free to ignore them. I don't know what teeth are going to be put into this; I think that will be the crucial point.Very true, but the bishops are being given a lot less "wiggle room" than before and quite frankly most of these guys don't like to make waves. There are enough of us "hard line" Catholics out here to give them a tough time if they don't adhere to what the Vatican wants, the Internet helps in this regard.
23 posted on
11/23/2005 5:45:26 AM PST by
Diva
To: livius
One hopes that BXVI's enforcement will be a little more energetic than that of his predecessor, but it is in any case a very difficult thing, particularly since the US bishops (and superiors) have been allowed to run amok for so many years. Even as we speak, they're probably sitting in bed reading this with a knowing smile prior to tossing it into the recycling bin.
No doubt about that. However, for many of these bishops, even if the document said, "Hey, you with the mitre. Yeah, I'm talking to you. DO NOT ORDAIN HOMOS. End transmission," they would have ignored it.
All you have to do is look at how Bishop Trautmann's committee is handling the changes mandated by Liturgiam Authenticam. They've basically over-ruled the Vatican's demands by saying, in effect, that we can't change things because "the people are used to the old translation." Funny, how that didn't seem to matter to them in 1970.
We have a multitude of very disobediant and possibly heretical bishops running around here in the US. It's long past time for a clean sweep.
43 posted on
11/23/2005 10:54:55 AM PST by
Antoninus
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