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Why Some Christians Don't Celebrate Christmas
Good News Magazine ^ | Nov. 2005 | Jerold Aust

Posted on 12/04/2005 7:27:20 AM PST by DouglasKC

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To: SerpentDove
Not to be contentious (and I really do not mean this in a hostile wat), but what other holidays do you celebrate? The Feast of Unleavened Bread? Feast of Tabernacles?

My intent is not to be hostile either. I'm sharing information. I realize it's a touchy subject. I do celebrate those days. These are the days created by Christ. He calls them "his" days:

Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

" One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God."

People often use this verse from Romans 14 to justify not celebrating the days God created.

I will admit that if you read this verse by itself, with the presupposition and bias that it is talking about God's Holy Days, then I can see your point.

But if you approach it without this bias, and read all of Romans 14 to put this verse into context, you will see that the controversy isn't about holy days of God, but about certain days pertaining to eating and drinking.

Further, there is a specific term in the new testament greek that refers to the holy days that Christ created. This term is not mentioned in Romans 14.

Thank you for your blessing and may God bless you in your search for truth.

21 posted on 12/04/2005 8:51:14 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: bornacatholic

God can do whatever He likes.
Of course Jesus could have been born on that actual date. I should have said based on Biblical accounts of the weather conditions, He most likely was not born mid/late-December.


22 posted on 12/04/2005 8:52:07 AM PST by svcw
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To: DouglasKC

Excellent article!


23 posted on 12/04/2005 8:53:29 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: bornacatholic
Do you think it impossible God migh have CHOSEN to be born on that date? God uses Grace to build upon nature. nature. I think God make a great choice..talk about a sense of humor. "These clowns worship the Sun? OK, soon hey really WILL worship the Son"

Actually, God does choose certain days for major biblical events to occur. These days are the holy days he created. For example, the new testament church was founded on Pentecost. Christ died on Passover. That is why the holy days were created and why they are important to God. They mark, portend and signify salvational events. When kept, they increase understanding of God's plan.

24 posted on 12/04/2005 8:54:19 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Killjoy.


25 posted on 12/04/2005 8:54:35 AM PST by Viking2002 (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: bornacatholic; svcw
Biblical Dates for Messiah's Conception and Birth

b'shem Y'shua

26 posted on 12/04/2005 8:55:56 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: bornacatholic

Not impossible, and might be, but most importantly, it's the day set aside to comptemplate what really matters:

O Lord,
amazing is your love
that you come to us
so vunerable,
so open,
a babe crying in the night.

From the beginning
you were aware of rejection,
of how little room there was for you,
No room at the inn,
No room in many hearts,
So little room in modern life,
and yet,
rejected or not,
you wait patiently
for the heart that will hear your calling,
like Mary did,
like the shepherds,
like Andrew, and Peter and John.

O Lord,
that night so long ago,
you ignited hope
as the angels sang,
hope
that says
there is balm
for all the wounds,
there is rest from all labors,
there is true peace.

O Lord,
let us once again in our hearts
hear the song the angels sang,
and seeing the babe in the manger,
fall on our knees,
amazed at such radical love.


27 posted on 12/04/2005 8:58:31 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Amelia
I've been laughing for days at the people who think that calling a decorated evergreen a "Holiday tree" rather than a "Christmas tree" somehow denigrates the Savior." somehow denigrates the Savior.

They could take a lesson from the Whoos down in Whooville. If they really believed that Christ was the reason for the season then you could remove all of the ribbons, the bows, the packages and trees and the day would still exist. Of course it wouldn't because it's not in holy scripture...which is exactly why you need all the trappings to give it a...semblance of authority. In my opinion.

28 posted on 12/04/2005 9:04:55 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Viking2002
Killjoy.

Ezr 6:22 And kept the feast of unleavened bread seven days with joy: for the LORD had made them joyful, and turned the heart of the king of Assyria unto them, to strengthen their hands in the work of the house of God, the God of Israel.

29 posted on 12/04/2005 9:07:23 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Two billion people celebrating the birth of Christ speaks to me more than the few who don't.


30 posted on 12/04/2005 9:58:26 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: DouglasKC; bornacatholic

"But since Jesus never taught His apostles to keep Christmas, ...., shouldn't that make us question whether Christmas is something Jesus really wants or appreciates?"

The logic of this line of argumentation is so laughable, that I can't believe anyone would take it seriously. To illustrate, let's substitute something else that Jesus never commanded His apostles to do:

"But since Jesus never wrote anything Himself and never told His apostles to write the New Testament...shouldn't that make us question whether the New Testament is something Jesus really wants or appreciates?"

Gee, its really true folks - Jesus never wrote anything in His whole ministry - let's all burn our bibles now!!!

And as for all the posturing about observing the feasts that our Lord appointed, I bet the author completely rejects the books that describe the institution of Hannukah, never mind celebrating the feast as Jesus did.


31 posted on 12/04/2005 10:30:18 AM PST by Tantumergo
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To: Eastbound; DouglasKC
Two billion people celebrating the birth of Christ speaks to me more than the few who don't.

Matthew 7:13 “Enter through the narrow gate.
For wide is the gate and broad is the road
that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

Matthew 7:14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life,
and only a few find it.

b'shem Y'shua

32 posted on 12/04/2005 10:47:20 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: bornacatholic

"hence it follows that that the Blessed Virgin Mary having, as the Evangelist St Luke relates, received the Angel Gabriel's visit, and conceived the Saviour of the world in the sixth month of Elizabeth's pregnancy, that is to say March, the Birth of Jesus must have taken place in the month of December."

For all the protestations above about "adopting pagan festivals", St. John Chrysostom's account is far more realistic in that it was the date of the Annunciation (March 25th) which was the determining factor for the date of the Nativity.

There is complicated OT typology which the fathers used to determine the date of the Annunciation, as well as St. Luke's Gospel, but the ancient Christian belief was that Adam was created on March 25th, Christ became incarnate on March 25th and Christ was crucified on March 25th.

All this nonsense about "Christianising" pagan festivals is hogwash spewed forth by the ignorant who have no Tradition and who don't understand how the early Christians read the Bible.


33 posted on 12/04/2005 10:54:54 AM PST by Tantumergo
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To: DouglasKC
Someone should tell the author of the article, That it has been said "That if one does not know the facts, argument is to no avail, and if one does know the facts, argument is unnecessary".

AAARRRGGHHhhhhhh.................


34 posted on 12/04/2005 10:59:08 AM PST by austinmark ("May the Flea's of a Thousand Camels Nest in ALLAH's Pubic Hair" !!!)
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meh,
I have read sillier reasons not to celebrate Christmas. My main reason is because I am cheap and hate buying stuff for people so I tell all my friends I just converted to being a Jehovah Witness.


35 posted on 12/04/2005 11:11:52 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: DouglasKC
Why don't they celebrate Christmas? Because they're either heretical Arians (like the Jehovah's Witnesses) or Protestants looking for yet another gimmick to latch on to prove they're the "true" Christians.

What is with Protestant gimmickry anyway? Some like to needlessly use Hebrew, some force their women to wear long sleeves and beehive hairdos, some won't celebrate holidays, some force all their members to tithe (pre-tax income of course). And they say us Catholics follow the traditions of men too much!
36 posted on 12/04/2005 11:12:13 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: SerpentDove
Does Christmas really honor Christ?

It does the way I and many Christians celebrate it. Maybe the author would be happier if a holiday that celebrates the birth of Christ was eradicated, like sweeping the Ten Commandments from courtrooms. 1) Unrealistic. 2) Stupid.

Pardon me for saying so, but this self-righteous, sanctimonious approach is completely asinine.

The author is theologically infantile. He requires an Admiral Jesus to give marching orders on everything he is to do and not do. It's a wonder the author even goes to the bathroom, since Jesus didn't explicitly command it in lots of monosyllabic words in the Gospels.
37 posted on 12/04/2005 11:14:35 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Tantumergo
St. John Chrysostom's account is far more realistic in that it was the date of the Annunciation (March 25th) which was the determining factor for the date of the Nativity

John Chrysostom was a rabid anti-semite
and by extension John is someone who hates
the Christ as Y'shua is a Jewish Rabbi
who hates tradition and teaches the Word of G-d.

b'shem Y'shua

38 posted on 12/04/2005 11:15:05 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: DouglasKC
I'm fairly certain that the author would not advocate sweeping the Ten Commandments from courtrooms. I think the main objection to Christmas as a Christian holiday is that Christ created holy days, listed them in the bible, and told His worshippers when to observe them. When Christ incarnated, he observed the very same days he created. He did this for a very good reason. Christmas was not one of these days.

So the author's a Judaizer. I guess we should all only celebrate Yom Kippur, Hannukah, and Passover. And go back to the Hebrew calendar.

It's too bad some of these clowns can't just live a Christian life, instead of obsessing over holidays. Traditions of men, indeed.
39 posted on 12/04/2005 11:17:38 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: DouglasKC
Not really. Christ knows what his people need to worship him. He created specific days, called them "his" and then commanded his followers to observe them. Christmas, or the celebration of his birth, was not one of them. Observing his birth with disctinctly non-biblical traditions at the exclusion of the days HE commanded is certainly at the least disobedience to his written word.

Then go feel free to sit in a closet on December 25th. Your argument is a loser, and has been settled for well over a millenium.

Why some people keep trying to reinvent the wheel, I don't know. It's just a huge waste of energy and time that could be spent doing God's work.
40 posted on 12/04/2005 11:19:13 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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