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To: Dahlseide
By "The Law", I am referring to the 10 commandments. The defining characteristics of the remnant church is one that keeps the commandments of God and the Testimony of Jesus Christ. I pray that I can find the right balance to qualify as a member of the remnant. Here is my rationale followed by some of my favorite texts.

The Law points out sin. Therefore it is our guide to living a Holy life. To throw out the Law is to insinuate that God is fallible and thus not God. As Christians, Jesus is our Savior and our template.

Our love of Christ is demonstrated by our striving to keep His commandments. Belief in the Holy Trinity leads to belief that Jesus existed in heaven before he existed on earth. The plan of salvation was laid out at the foundation of the world. Abraham was not saved by the Law, but by his faith in God demonstrated by his willingness to kill his only son because God told him to.

Luk 6:46 And why do you call Me Lord, Lord, and do not do what I say?

Luk 6:47 Whoever comes to Me and hears My Words, and does them, I will show you to whom he is like.

Mat 19:17 And He said to him, Why do you call Me good? There is none good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.

Mat 5:18 For truly I say to you, Till the heaven and the earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall in any way pass from the Law until all is fulfilled.

Mat 5:19 Therefore whoever shall relax one of these commandments, the least, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of Heaven. But whoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of Heaven.

Mat 15:8 "This people draws near to Me with their mouth, and honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. Mat 15:9 But in vain they worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."

20 posted on 12/30/2005 6:11:48 PM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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To: kerryusama04; Gamecock; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg
The Law points out sin. Therefore it is our guide to living a Holy life. To throw out the Law is to insinuate that God is fallible and thus not God. As Christians, Jesus is our Savior and our template.

Then you misunderstand the purpose of the Law as understood by protestants. The Law certainly does point out sin; that is quite an understatement, unless by that you mean the impossibility of keeping the Law which you apparently do not.

Paul referred to himself as the chiefest of sinners; I once stated that I had replaced him; but recently I realized that Paul was correct; correct because he understood the depth of the Law; something that I know I, & I strongly, as strongly as words will allow, recommend that you begin to understand in a much deeper way; the reason being that the Law, as Bunyan put it in Pilgrims Progress, is allegorically speaking, similar to a huge cliff hanging over Christians head & certain to fall on him should he continue on that false path to satisfy the Law; after he had temporarily, and only temporarily, turned from the only road to the Celestial City.

The purpose of the Law is to drive all the saved & the yet-to-be saved pell-mell, screaming save me from the wrath to come, to the only One that ever met or could met the Laws demand; that of course being, as you must know, the Redeemer of His elect.

If you truly believe you are a Christian & yet truly believe you can satisfy the Law, I pity you. However that pity is worth nothing as it is only by grace that you or I can be saved.

You need not claim protestants, who truly are protestants, nullify the Law – as they say in the vernacular of the day that dog don’t hunt .

Nor need you say it began with protestants – that dog doesn’t hunt any better than the first dog.

Do we who hold the impossibility of keeping the Law then sin that grace may abound?.

Same dog.

If you understand scripture in the slightest, or when you do, you will realize the falsity of any thought of satisfying the Laws demand; that everything you believed in that regard amounted to you, or someone for you, placing a veil over the Law to soften it to the point that man, i.e. you or me, could keep it.

Simply put, the Law is our tutor to drive the saved, & yet-to-be saved, to the Redeemer; & yes to His rightness imputed to those whom He has regenerated, or will in the future at a time of His choosing, regenerate.

I have yet to understand your use of template.

The e-names I am including in this reply I have added only, I repeat only, that they might have more proper and/or convincing words than I; all the while realizing that it is not any of us who will change your heart & mind; that depends solely on God.

I understand the harshness of my words; be assured that were this not an eternal life with God versus an eternal life in hell issue I would not e-voice them.

I am no better than you. It was grace & only grace that caused me to be regenerated; then grace that taught my heart to fear the eternal consequence of my inability to meet the just demands of the Law & then it was grace that fear relieved; & it is grace, pure & only grace, that will lead Home. The same be onto you as God wills.

22 posted on 12/30/2005 9:26:21 PM PST by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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To: kerryusama04; Dahlseide
The Law points out sin. Therefore it is our guide to living a Holy life.

Can you live a Holy Life? Are you angry when someone cuts you off in traffic? Do you gossip? Even one violation and you are busted.

Do you put all of your energy into loving your neighbor as yourself? Just once putting your own best interest ahead of your neighbor and you are busted. (And we know from Scripture that your neighbor isn't just the nice old lady next door.) It is the drunk passed out in the alley; the gay man alone, dying with AIDS; the little old man spiraling into oblivion at the VA Nursing home. Are you putting their needs ahead of yours?

Do you love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your mind and all your spirit? Do you keep every law in the Bible? Do you do so out of love for our God or for some benefit to yourself?

The most significant use of the Law, for Christians, is that it points out our need for someone who can keep the law, someone how loved God with all His heart and mind. Someone who loved others more than Himself. CHRIST. I am saved by his perfect work, not by my own sinful efforts.

Romans 3:20 For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.

Romans 3 The Righteousness of God Through Faith 21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it

23 posted on 12/31/2005 2:28:48 AM PST by Gamecock ("It is better to think of Church in an alehouse than to think of an alehouse in Church" Luther)
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