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To: Gamecock; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; kerryusama04
Sorry to drag you into this. Either his words condemn him or mine condemn me. God will judge us both. No use extending this me thinks - but without any personnel animosity only sorrow in my heart.

I assume you kerryusama04 feel the same way about me.

But I am not about to stop here,

I do have much animosity in my heart for a perversion of the Word & God’s sent Word, wherever I believe perversions exist – including, I would like to be able to say with a clear conscience, mainly within myself; but even as I write this I know I can not say that truthfully with a clear conscience. Therefore it is good, much more than good but words fail, to know God has through the times of this old-world’s existence kept & propagated His Word. It borders on idiocy to think I must say so, I do so for myself only, that He is quite capable of protecting His Word from eternity past through eternity future.

But still the animosity I have in my heart for my own, and/or others, perversions lingers. So the Law is doing more of its work as it points out to my conscience my personnel by-nature-I-am sinful-and-unclean-self-pride & much, much more.

I even feel & know & admit that I have self-pride expressed in what I am writing: Oh wretched son of Adam that I am! Who will save me from this wretchedness of my conscience?

I know it is not The Law; it has done all that it can for me. The remainder is all against me; all that remains for it to do is testify against me at the judgment that must follow …it is appointed onto man once to die & after that the judgment”.

But the Perfect Word has more to say then only presenting through the Perfect Law, with its just requirements & just punishment, my sin/sin-nature to my conscience. It also tells me the purpose of the Law & what to do about my wretchedness; a wretchedness shown more & more starkly through my conscience as the depth of my sin is revealed to it.

Here I have to divert to explain something to myself. Dahlseide: take the phrase are we to sin that grace may abound/; turn the phrase on itself & think Show me more & more of the enormity of my sin/sin-nature that my understanding of grace may abound. That means, quite frankly, make me more of a sinner in my own eyes that grace may abound. That grace then abounds more & more as the hymn has it “ by casting my eyes upon Jesus” – even here my conscience taunts me to admit that these words sound all fine & dandy but do I really mean them. Wow! The Law is doing its Perfect Work, & that is not mocking the Law – I know what I mean by that phrase. It, the Perfect Word, continues with the Incarnation of God the Son as Jesus the Christ, the Lord, the Perfect sacrifice, the One Mediator between God & man, the High Priest of all whom God as elected from before the foundation. It tells of all the work, & the necessity & why of that work, that Jesus did; the keeping of the Law which among other things means - & it is foolish for me to think I have to say it but I am – meant He was sinless, even though, & especially so, He faced the same temptations common to us.

And it goes much further; it tells of Jesus the Christ: the continuing work He performs on behalf of His Called Ones my/our High Priest; He is my Public Defender before the Throne of God’s, unbearable under the Law, justice.

Then it culminates in telling us of the certain hope we have of & in the new-World.

We never really got into what in my mind is a wonderful expression/description of “The Blood of the Everlasting Covenant, Hebrews 13:20” but that’s OK; there will be plenty of opportunity later.

Finally:

I’ll add to my opening statement my take on Paul’s words in Corinthians “… if what I have said is not true I am to be pitied for I am yet & will remain in my sin; I best live only for this life by whatever pleases my Adamic-nature”

For if there is a hell, which some deny, it ain’t going to be much fun.

My eggs are all in One Basket.

30 posted on 12/31/2005 10:17:14 AM PST by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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To: Dahlseide
I assume you kerryusama04 feel the same way about me.

I come here to share what I have learned, and learn what others share. We all share a love of Jesus and I believe we have all come here for a reason. Hopefully our work here is acceptable to the Lord

Hell doesn't exist....yet. The way I read it, when you die you go to sleep, just like Lazarus. If you are saved, you get resurrected at the first resurrection and live in the clouds with Jesus for a thousand years where the Book of Life is opened and all is made known. After the 1000 years, the wicked dead get resurrected and then get put to death. It appears that Satan gets to burn forever. What would heaven be if you had to watch your family and friends who didn't make the cut get cooked for eternity?

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

38 posted on 12/31/2005 3:14:54 PM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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