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Many evangelicals unwittingly live as feminists, Moore says
Florida Baptist Witness ^
| Published December 8, 2005
| Russell D. Moore
Posted on 12/31/2005 5:12:35 AM PST by Popman
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:12:37 AM PST
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Popman
To: Fzob
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:13:03 AM PST
by
Popman
(In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
To: Popman
Get ur b!tch ars3 in da kitchen!
he he
To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Well, I guess if your religion doesn't allow sex for fun, beer, or dancing, then controlling one's wife is all that's left.
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:20:12 AM PST
by
Mercat
(It's still Christmas)
To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Evangelicals maintain headship in the sphere of ideas, but practical decisions are made in most evangelical homes through a process of negotiation, mutual submission, and consensus, Not quite the same as "Get ur b!tch ars3 in da kitchen!"
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:20:52 AM PST
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Popman
(In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
To: Mercat
Well, I guess if your religion doesn't allow sex for fun, beer, or dancing, then controlling one's wife is all that's left.I must have missed that in the article.
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:22:00 AM PST
by
Popman
(In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
To: Popman
Thanks, that was a nice way to tell me that my post was really stupid and I do apologize.
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:23:06 AM PST
by
Mercat
(It's still Christmas)
To: Popman
I think the guy has a point, but this statement is proving hard to digets:
Evangelicals maintain headship in the sphere of ideas, but practical decisions are made in most evangelical homes through a process of negotiation, mutual submission, and consensus, Moore said. Thats what our forefathers would have called feminism and our foremothers, too.
I attempt to operate as the biblical head, but the above sounds like a fair description of my household, and it also sounds like Ephesians 5. Headship implies an ultimate authority, but it would seem to be an abuse of that authority not to take the other person's wishes into account and, unless there's a good reason not to, accommodating them.
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:23:06 AM PST
by
Shalom Israel
(Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
To: Popman
The feminization of Christianity. It doesn't work.
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:24:22 AM PST
by
bella1
To: Mercat
No problem. Got that first cup of coffee in you yet? Always helps me
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:29:15 AM PST
by
Popman
(In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
To: Mercat
One of our friends was (is still) married to a man who believed all of this.
He keeps all of the family savings in an account that only he has access to. He, a gamefully employed computer programmer, would give her $300 per month for groceries, gas and food. This was supposed to cover expenses for her and the five kids. He forbid her to get a job. When she did, he sold her car.
He would routinely get her up at 2:00 am and lecture her for two hours about submission. He told me that in today's society, that if he tried to be the Biblical leader of the family (as he understood the Bible) he would be in jail.
She has slept with a knife under her pillow for last 5 years.
To: Mercat
Well stated. That's about the sum and substance of it, so it seems.
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:32:34 AM PST
by
A Jovial Cad
(The updated AJC profile page for 2006 is now available!***)
To: bella1
The feminization of Christianity. It doesn't work. I believe that was point of the article. Most Christians don't realize the extent of the feminization of their homes and culture
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:32:38 AM PST
by
Popman
(In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
To: Popman
FYI...
The author thinks that "negotiation, mutual submission, and consensus" is a BAD thing.
To: Popman
?Egalitarian views are carrying the day within
evangelical-&-catholic churches and homes, Moore said, because complementarians have not dealt sufficiently with
the forces that drive the feminist impulse: Western notions of consumerism-666 and therapy-666?
1st Timothy 2:11-15
1st Timothy 2:5
Hebrews 1:1-3
/Narnia pagan nonsense
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:33:57 AM PST
by
maestro
To: Shalom Israel
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;...
So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself....
For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: The rest of Ephesians about covers your concerns
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:37:39 AM PST
by
Popman
(In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
To: Mr. Brightside
Moore said, a biblical view of male headship and gender roles actually protect against spousal and child abuse because it does not posit male privilege, but instead demands male responsibility. Your friends husband has confused his maleness as a privilege rather than a responsibility.
He is not living according to Scriptures if he is treating his wife in that manner
Of course for that one nut case your friend is married to, there are millions of husbands who lead their homes like real loving husbands and Christians.
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:49:39 AM PST
by
Popman
(In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
To: maestro
Could you please show me where it says Catholic?
I do agree with you and these are the groups that need to stick together when it comes to family issues. No matter what our differences of faith, we should be the hand that rocks the cradle in family issues of this country.
I love my hubby. He loves me. When he gives an absolute, it is just that. I do it because I am so very blessed by God with the gift of him. Why don't some women get this?
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:50:29 AM PST
by
netmilsmom
(God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
To: Popman
research has shown many conservative and evangelical households to be among the softest when it comes to familial harmony, relational happiness and emotional health, Moore saidDoes this mean anything in English, or did it come from a Random Gibberish Generator?
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:53:26 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(I am just not sure how to get from here to where we want to be.)
To: Popman
Evangelicals maintain headship in the sphere of ideas, but practical decisions are made in most evangelical homes through a process of negotiation, mutual submission, and consensus, Moore said. Thats what our forefathers would have called feminism and our foremothers, too. A lot of our forefathers supported slavery, too ... and used the bible to justify it.
The concept of "submission" has historically been abused and taken to an extreme. But it's only simple biblical law and order that starts in the home. When a decision has to be made and cannot be agreed to, someone has to be in charge. And it's the husband's responsibility, not right.
This "submission" the bible speaks is the the wife's responsibility to agree to a husband's decision only after negotiation, mutual submission and consensus should fail.
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posted on
12/31/2005 5:56:05 AM PST
by
manwiththehands
(My Christmas wish: I wish Republicans were running the country.)
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