I just want to say thanks to the admins for their patience here... I know there are a lot of Rick Warren adherents on FR, and I'm kind of risking a lot of ire being thrown my way and causing a lot of ill feeling. I would really not do it if I didn't see grave danger in it for the church following this guy (and others like him). I know it's hard to see someone you really like taken off their pedestal, and I sympathize.
Hey, so far this has been a refreshingly civil thread. I've seen how nasty threads can get when someone feels their religious views are being attacked so thanks to everyone who has so far exhibited Christian charity. Thanks for the post; it helps those of us who are not familiar with the guy.