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To: Grammy


That is the definition that I hold to. Denying Christ his Lordship, Kingship and Creator roll. Also putting other gods equal or bofore Him.

“A cult ... is a group of people polarized around someone's interpretation of the Bible and is characterized by major deviations from orthodox Christianity relative to the cardinal doctrines of the Christian faith, particularly the fact that God became man in Jesus Christ.”

Also the book of Revelation warns not to add or take away from the Book. Some argue this means only the book of Revelation, but that is denied by most fundementally minded folk. :-)

Here is a interesting quote....

...The Saints have a radically different approach, said Shipps, believing God and Jesus to be separate beings — each with a literal body and parts. They say Jesus was sired by God, with a divine Mother in Heaven. “The Trinity, the Trinity, the Trinity there is no way around the Trinity” said Shipps. “But you know it would also help if Christians — if they are going to use the word ‘cult — would admit that Christianity changed the very nature of the Jewish God. Christianity then grew up to become a new religious tradition. “Mormonism is a new religious tradition that has grown out of Christianity. It is an entity unto itself It is what it is.”

That should be enough to keep most from joining LDS.

Please pass video link along to anyone who may be caught up in LDS, a dangerous cult.


9 posted on 01/18/2006 1:12:30 PM PST by johnk (faithful with little....)
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To: johnk; Dr. Eckleburg
But you know it would also help if Christians — if they are going to use the word ‘cult — would admit that Christianity changed the very nature of the Jewish God

Christianity in no way changes the nature of the One True God. He is unchangeable, as is Jesus Christ. If you are referring to the Incarnation, God took on the form of a man, but His nature was unchanged. The Incarnation was but the Plan of Salvation revealed in the Torah to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. God, and God alone, is our Savior. Christianity is the culmination of Jewish theology.

47 posted on 01/20/2006 12:29:02 PM PST by zeeba neighba
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To: johnk; zeeba neighba

Tell me johnk, is it not true that the Father and Son are ONE?

John 10

30 I and my Father are ONE.

Did not the Son receive the Glory of the Heavenly Father?

John 7
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

They are in ONE accord!

Malachi 2 10
.Have we not all one father?
.hath not one God created us?
.why do we deal treacherously every man against his bother,
.by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

Matt. 5:
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Luke 6:
40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed,and heirs according to the promise.

Do you johnk, know what the promise is?

John 17

1 THESE words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.

8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

con't John 17

19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.

26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

As I read the scripture Jesus ask his Heavenly Father for his Glory that he may also glorify the those of us who do the will of the Father and Son and Keep His Commandments!

So this promise is those who "Keep the Lord's Commandments" will be glorified with the Son as ONE, as the Son is ONE with the Heavenly Father, and be resurrected and have enteranl life and be join heirs!

The scritures in many places uses the word ONE as in ONE accord!

The Father and Son are ONE,

and we are all to ONE with the Lord Jesus Christ!

Those who are ONE will be join heirs and glorified!

Roman 8
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.




48 posted on 01/20/2006 1:53:52 PM PST by restornu (On the other hand some here even pick-up Sugary Darts at their local Pharisee shop!)
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To: johnk

I usually say that it's no longer a cult when the leader is too dead to make money (or get girls) off the scam.


182 posted on 01/24/2006 9:28:04 PM PST by AmishDude
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