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To: patent

" You cannot deny the SSPX is using a different Mass Rite than the current normative Rite. "

Sure I can. The Tridentine Rite was never suppressed, it WAS the 'normative' Mass and it sill is valid and legal for every priest in the Latin Rite.

" Re hierarchy: I assume you are willing to concede they have a separate hierarchy now, and that this has been true since 1988..."

Talk about word games! They have the SAME hierarchical structure they were chartered with, they have not changed that.

As for the Catechism, the "Modern" Catechism (like the many flavors of "modern" liturgy) has been translated and retranslated and yet the Baltimore Catechism is still legal, still (and always will be) Catholic and suffers none of the odd problem that plague the modern versions.

The Neos aren't continueing to use what the Church was using during their lifetime, they are crafting (as have many others in the Church) an entirely different faith than the one they were given. The SSPX has taught nothing that the Church didn't teach within most of our lifetimes - they reject the heretical and embrace the Traditional.


89 posted on 01/20/2006 4:56:24 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: narses
" You cannot deny the SSPX is using a different Mass Rite than the current normative Rite. "
Sure I can. The Tridentine Rite was never suppressed, it WAS the 'normative' Mass and it sill is valid and legal for every priest in the Latin Rite.
You have to be joking. While the Tridentine was once the norm, it is not currently the normative Rite. It just isn’t, and to deny that is to go beyond mere argumentation, it is to step into a fantasy land. Good luck narses, but if you can’t even admit what the current normative Rite of the Mass is, there is no point in discussion with you. It is absolutely pointless to respond to the remainder of your post. You are too far gone.

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91 posted on 01/20/2006 7:27:31 PM PST by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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