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To: Iscool
That's exactly what they teach...And during the middle ages, if you refused to bow to the pope, you were murdered, burned at the stake, babies were killed in front of their mothers, etc...That is not a 'church' I care to belong to...

You wouldn't happen to have a reference for this remarkable historical nugget would you?

12 posted on 01/29/2006 6:44:29 PM PST by fdcc
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To: fdcc

The war against the Cathari (Albegesians), very well documented, in Southern France is one. I'm sure one could dig up some baby-slaughtering instances there...but its not necessary. Tens of thousands were slaughtered of this heretical gnostic (by any current measure, Roman, Protestant or Orthodox) religious sect, in this internal crusade/inquisition, instigated and blessed by the Roman church.

John Hus, at the Council of Constance, for another, burned in 1417, for it appears not for theological heresy, but for calling attention to the averice of the Bohemian bishops at the time. This was the same council that settled the 3 simultaneous pope schism (wonder which one really had Peter's blessing?).

The St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre of 1572 for another, where as many as 70,000 French Calvinists where slaughtered--primarily for their faith (and I'm sure many were mothers with babies...).

Of course as Protestant princes gained power, Protestant Christians were also guilty of similar horrors...but not under the express command of their respective Church body officials--as was often the case in the early Reformation period with Roman Catholics.

Queen Mary in England in the 1550s, in trying to re-establish Roman Church control in England burned or butchered an estimated 400 Protestant leaders--all for the sake of (and with the blessing of) her church. She wasn't called "Bloody" for nothing.

The religious wars of the the late 1500s and 1600s too, filled rivers of blood on both sides. 1 of 3 Germans for example, was slaughtered in the 30 Years War (whole cities disappearing)...which started and ended for a mixed up mash of both religious and poltical reasons.

Knowing what institutional leaders of the Roman church instigated and blessed (and which the Roman church has never fully repudiated) --especially in Reformation times--I for one could never become a Romanist.

Christ' Church is made up of those that truly follow Him, not in one human organization. He knows His own.


44 posted on 01/30/2006 9:05:35 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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