[Iris7]

I think you are correct. This situation looks to me to predate Vatican II by at least a generation.

I offer no evidence. I reason here by inference. Some of these people are quite old. The Bishops who ordained them are long dead. The "lavender" network must reach back at least to the 19th Century. Less blatant then, of course.

Perhaps I have become too suspicious. Indeed.

[dsc]

"I offer no evidence. I reason here by inference. Some of these people are quite old."

Yes, those facts speak for themselves. Vat II was not the beginning of modernism.

I think the full story of the USSR's efforts to infiltrate seminaries has yet to be told. And, if they were going to infiltrate, what better agents than men who suffered from SSAD?