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Is Consciousness Quantum?
I AM Spirit ^ | February 14, 2006 | Tim Phares, RScP

Posted on 02/12/2006 9:37:11 PM PST by TBP

"Consciousness is the singular for which there is no plural," wrote the scientist Erwin Schroedinger. Schroedinger, famous for his theoretical disappearing cat, was one of the pioneers of quantum science.

Lately, I've been contemplating the idea, if I understand it correctly (I am emphatically NOT a scientist), that things in a quantum Universe are essentially wavicles -- potentially, at least, in several places at once, achieving locality only when observed. Only when we focus on them do they show up in a specific place called here.

The essential principle is that there is an observer consciousness that is the overriding force in the world, that we all live in that consciousness and that it reveals itself through each of us. It is only when it acts as us that the quantum wave of all things collapses and it settles into an "objective" reality, all other possibilities being discarded in this experience.

Well, isn't God like that? God is everywhere. God is Omnipresent. "There is no spot where God is not," as we often say in New Thought. Yet when we go into treatment and focus on a specific aspect or quality of God, it shows up right here. The nonlocal becomes local, as the scientists say, the only difference being that it is also simultaneously local to everyone else and in different ways.

Ultimately, of course, the observer and the observed are the same thing, but the Universe is set up in such a way as to be able to observe itself. Were it not set up in this way, it could never collapse the wave of potential and nothing would then occur, according to Dr. Amit Goswami, one of the scientists featured in the movie “What the Bleep Do We Know?”. There would be no choices made, thus there would be no resulting actions. The continued unfolding of the blessings of God requires an observation and an observed to interact and get the show on the road.

In his book The Self-Aware Universe: How Consciousness Creates the Material World, Dr. Goswami produces a scientific case for the idea that consciousness drives what manifests in the world. He makes his case by means of quantum physics, but the ideas he discusses comport closely with New Thought.

Goswami defines consciousness as "the ground of being (original, self-contained, and constitutive of all things) that manifests as the subject that chooses, and experiences what it chooses, as it self-reflectively collapses the quantum wave function in the presence of brain-mind awareness."

The idea that consciousness is "original, self-contained, and constitutive of all things" and that it "manifests as the subject that chooses and experiences what it chooses" will be quite familiar to New Thoughters. This is quintessential New Thought philosophy.

Goswami discusses the quantum wave -- the existence of objects in a field of potentiality -- and the experiments that have shown that particles such as photons, even when separated by massive distances, can "communicate" and act in the same way instantly, defying the theorem that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. These particles have been shown to be able to be in more than one place simultaneously, until observed, at which time, a choice having been made, they collapse their quantum wave and concretize into a given state which is perceived.

Does the same thing happen for people? An experiment in which people who had established a mental bond were locked in metal boxes and one was stimulated to test his response showed that the other partner responded in essentially the same way, showing that these quantum properties apply also to macro objects such as people.

This is why that which is known anywhere in consciousness is known everywhere in consciousness. That is why treatment (scientific prayer) said anywhere works right where the person is who is being prayed for.

According to Goswami, Rene Descartes got it slightly wrong when he wrote "Cogito, ergo sum." ("I think, therefore I am.") It should be "opto, ergo sum" ("I choose, therefore I am.")

In New Thought, we say that it is all about choices. We are always at choice, and the choices we make determine what happens in our lives. It's not what we want, but what we choose. Our choices are revealed by our expectations. When our choices don't work for us anymore, in the words of A Course in Miracles, we simply "Choose Once Again." As we make new choices, new circumstances follow. The formless shows up in new forms, the nonlocal takes on new locality.

The process of creation is a quantum event continually unfolding as and through you. Will you choose to direct it and make your life what you desire it to be?


TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Ecumenism; General Discusssion; Prayer; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: consciousness; god; newthought; quantum; quantummechanics; religion
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To: 101st-Eagle

I will admit that I don't know them all that well, but I got to know some of them at the 2004 Congress. I believe that Leddy Hammock, the minister there, is a VP of INTA.

You can find her email here: http://www.newthoughtalliance.com/pages/5intabdstaff.htm

I have the following (I won't put the phone and email on this board, but the address above will give them to you.)

Rev. Leddy Hammock
Unity Church of Clearwater
2465 Nursery Rd.
Clearwater, FL 33764

Also, Unity has a database at www.unity.org that will gie you information (address, phone number, service times) on all the churches in the country. (Religious Scinece does the same thing on its websites.)


41 posted on 02/21/2006 10:38:59 AM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

So it took me a couple more days than I thought:

http://www.iam-spirit.com/0502_practice.html

http://www.iam-spirit.com/0502_joelosteen.html


42 posted on 02/21/2006 11:06:09 AM PST by TBP
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To: TBP; 101st-Eagle

If you go there, say hi to Sue Kroupa, the music director. I was in the choir she put together for the 2004 INTA Congress.


43 posted on 02/21/2006 1:43:09 PM PST by TBP
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To: 101st-Eagle
Have you seen a movie called, "What The Bleep Do We Know?"

I own a copy of the "What the Bleep" DVD. Have you seen "What the Bleep: Down the Rabbit Hole"? It goes into even more detail about the ideas that "What the Bleep" discusses.

44 posted on 09/13/2007 8:51:05 PM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

Quantum theory supports spirituality and religion very well.


45 posted on 11/12/2014 2:41:21 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

Quantum operations pervade the way consciousness operates.


46 posted on 11/08/2016 4:00:09 PM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

I must say Tim you are an interesting even if horribly misguided person. On one hand, you can post decent articles like this - but on the other...........

Strange.

In any case, your late conversion from Never Trumpism to voting for Trump today gives me tremendous hope for you.

Well done - let’s win one for the Gipper.


47 posted on 11/08/2016 4:45:53 PM PST by indcons (Blue Lives Matter.)
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To: Eastbound
so must the Creator intelligence exist in a state non-connected to the universe in any physical way

Deeply connected to teh world. The world is the Creator in form, in mind, in body. Each of us is the conscious, deliberate, intentional expression of God.

48 posted on 11/09/2016 11:47:53 AM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 101st-Eagle
I own a copy of What the Bleep Do We Know.

"The real trick to life is not to be in the know, but to be in the mystery." -- Fred Alan Wolf (in What the Bleep)

49 posted on 11/09/2016 11:50:57 AM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 101st-Eagle
"Miracles are natural. If they are not occurring, something has gone wrong." -- A Course in Miracles
50 posted on 11/09/2016 11:51:53 AM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

FAscinating the way this works.


51 posted on 11/12/2016 11:28:16 AM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

“Consciousness is the singular for which there is no plural,” wrote the scientist Erwin Schroedinger.

Buddhist thought.
There being no duality, pluralism is untrue.


52 posted on 11/12/2016 11:31:07 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: TBP

Quantum theory points to the Divine, pretty directly.


53 posted on 05/05/2017 10:15:08 AM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP; Jeremiah Jr
Quantum theory points to the Divine, pretty directly.

Indeed it does. Thanks for bumping this old thread.

According to Goswami, Rene Descartes got it slightly wrong when he wrote "Cogito, ergo sum." ("I think, therefore I am.") It should be "opto, ergo sum" ("I choose, therefore I am.")

The thoughts and intents of the heart can choose to create, or choose to destroy. Love vs. hate, yes or no, on or off, one or zero. Existence or non-existence.

Now wonder the world must be constantly recreated. Too many dead-end choices going on out there.

Tikkun - rectification

Tohu and Tikun

54 posted on 05/05/2017 11:26:56 AM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Ezekiel; Eastbound; TBP
The Process of Creation by Kabbalist Rabbi Isaac Luria

The Dynamics of a Circle and a Line

See: the book, Ten Luminous Emanations, Ashlag

55 posted on 05/09/2017 6:57:47 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHI)
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To: Eastbound

You don’t hve your cat keeping it in place? :)


56 posted on 04/18/2019 9:03:48 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Eastbound

What we focus on expands.


57 posted on 04/18/2019 9:05:53 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Eastbound

There is, it seems to us,
At best, only a limited value
In the knowledge derived from experience.
The knowledge imposes a pattern, and falsifies,
For the pattern is new in every moment
And every moment is a new and shocking
Valuation of all we have been. — T.S. Eliot, “East Coker”


58 posted on 04/18/2019 9:09:08 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP

“Consciousness is the ground of all being.” — Amit Goswami


59 posted on 09/29/2021 7:30:20 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

Dr Goswami.....

Now there is a name that fits his career path

Swami a Hindu male religious teacher.


60 posted on 09/29/2021 7:32:51 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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