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Megachurches 'shallow in theology'
Herald Sun ^ | 22 February 2006

Posted on 02/21/2006 2:17:28 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

THE head of the World Council of Churches has expressed concern about the spread of megachurches around the world, such as Hillsong in Sydney, saying they could lead to a Christianity that is "two miles long and one inch deep".

The WCC General Secretary Samuel Kobia said megachurches - huge Protestant churches with charismatic pastors, lively music and other services - mostly ran on a business model to make worshippers feel good and were shallow in their theology.

Megachurches, which pack in thousands for rousing Sunday worship services, are popular in suburbs in the United States. Most are evangelical or Pentecostal, with few or no ties to mainline churches such as the Lutherans or Episcopalians.

Mr Kobia said the megachurch movement, which is not represented in the mostly mainline Protestant or Orthodox World Council of Churches, broke down borders among denominations with a populist message.

"It has no depth, in most cases, theologically speaking, and has no appeal for any commitment," the Kenyan Methodist said at the WCC world assembly in this Brazilian city.

The megachurches simply wanted individuals to feel good about themselves, he said.

"It's a church being organised on corporate logic. That can be quite dangerous if we are not very careful, because this may become a Christianity which I describe as 'two miles long and one inch deep'."

Reverend Geoff Tunnicliffe, international director of the 400 million member World Evangelical Alliance, said at the assembly that "historical and deeply-felt issues" separated them from other branches of Christianity.

The largest US megachurches attract some 20,000 worshippers every Sunday. Abroad, megachurches have also sprouted up in Australia, South Korea, Britain, Canada, and other countries.

According to a report by the Hartford Institute for Religion Research, there were 1210 US churches drawing more than 2000 worshipers, the official minimum for a megachurch. That was double the number in 2000.

The WCC groups nearly 350 Protestant and Orthodox churches that mostly broke away from the Roman Catholic Church in the Great Schism of 1054 or in the 16th century Reformation.


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: christianity; megachurch; megachurches; theology; wcc
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Methinks the WCC feels more than a little threatened by the "megachurches"!
1 posted on 02/21/2006 2:17:29 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher
THE head of the World Council of Churches has expressed concern about the spread of megachurches around the world, such as Hillsong in Sydney, saying they could lead to a Christianity that is "two miles long and one inch deep". The WCC General Secretary Samuel Kobia said megachurches ...were shallow in their theology.

Talk about your pot and kettle. The WCC and NCC are both about as shallow in terms of theology and deep in terms of socialism as you can get.

2 posted on 02/21/2006 2:22:49 PM PST by VRWCmember (You are STILL safer hunting with Dick Cheney than riding in a car with Ted Kennedy!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Even the much-maligned "gospel of wealth" megachurches in the black community (like the one that hosted Mrs. King's funeral) require more commitment from their members than the typical mainline churches do. In particular, I learned from my students, they expect young people to get their sex lives in order--to aim for a serious, lifelong marriage--and to care for their children. The parishioners don't always succeed at it, but at least they know that it is expected. Meanwhile, the Episcopal Church is in the business of blessing drunken orgies.


3 posted on 02/21/2006 2:23:49 PM PST by madprof98
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To: Aussie Dasher

Sounds like a compliment to "megachurches" to me.


4 posted on 02/21/2006 2:25:10 PM PST by oyez (Appeasement is insanity)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Mega churches are a mockery, designed to steal money from the spiritually challenged.
5 posted on 02/21/2006 2:25:50 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: madprof98; Aussie Dasher
they expect young people to get their sex lives in order--to aim for a serious, lifelong marriage--and to care for their children.

And how right they are. Indeed, these habits will lead to more prosperity in life - not necessarily wealth - I mean prosperity in the sense of security and having rational needs. Gambling, drinking etc are the fruits of disordered homes.

6 posted on 02/21/2006 2:28:20 PM PST by BlackVeil
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"Meanwhile, the Episcopal Church is in the business of blessing drunken orgies."

As an Episcopalian, I think that's a terrible way to describe Sunday brunch after the service.


7 posted on 02/21/2006 2:28:21 PM PST by linda_22003
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To: Aussie Dasher

This just makes me think "megachurches," on which I otherwise have no opinion, are a great thing!


8 posted on 02/21/2006 2:41:52 PM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: Liz; Calpernia

Possible Soros ping. He has certainly financed this bunch a time or two.


9 posted on 02/21/2006 2:50:05 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: linda_22003
As an Episcopalian, I think that's a terrible way to describe Sunday brunch after the service.

Having good friends who have not yet left the Episcopal Church, I was trying to be charitable.

10 posted on 02/21/2006 2:53:18 PM PST by madprof98
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To: Aussie Dasher
[ THE head of the World Council of Churches has expressed concern about the spread of megachurches around the world, such as Hillsong in Sydney, saying they could lead to a Christianity that is "two miles long and one inch deep". The WCC General Secretary Samuel Kobia said megachurches - huge Protestant churches with charismatic pastors, lively music and other services - mostly ran on a business model to make worshippers feel good and were shallow in their theology. ]

The most obvious glaring ommission IS;
"A church one inch long and 2 miles deep"..
I think Sam is in deep denial.. as head of one of a long held and known Commie front groups,, WCoC.. Churchs walking in front of the Holy Eighteen Wheeler are ROAD KILL.. and others been dead so long they stink.. Sam is Sooo two dimensional..

11 posted on 02/21/2006 2:56:39 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Megachurches, which pack in thousands for rousing Sunday worship services, are popular in suburbs in the United States. Most are evangelical or Pentecostal, with few or no ties to mainline churches such as the Lutherans or Episcopalians.

Reminds me of the "encounter" with a "pastor" of one such "flock" in central Florida. The "church" got a few acres in our rural area and is putting up a HUGE CONCRETE MONSTROSITY TOTALLY out of character with all other COMMERCIAL structures in the area which have taken care to retain a "Country Look".

The "pastor" when approached concerning his plans for his COMMERCIAL AUDITORIUM POSING AS A "CHURCH" and asked whether he could conform with the character of buildings in the area replied... "IF YOU CAUSE US ANY PROBLEMS WE WILL SUE YOUR ASSES INTO BANKRUPTCY!!!

Personally, I hope that his venture is swallowed up by a sinkhole as an act of God!!!

12 posted on 02/21/2006 2:59:42 PM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Mamzelle


Busy little beaver isn't he?


13 posted on 02/21/2006 3:00:48 PM PST by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: potlatch

Purpose Driven ping


14 posted on 02/21/2006 3:07:42 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: Aussie Dasher

It's probably just me, but I don't think that the actual church really determines a person's faith or lack thereof.

It's between that person and God. It doesn't matter which church they attend to hear The Word.


15 posted on 02/21/2006 3:09:09 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Brokeback Mountain: The ONLY western where the Cowboys GET IT IN THE END!!!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

In other news, Water is all wet, as is the WCC.


16 posted on 02/21/2006 3:46:46 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Aussie Dasher; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
The "I'm okay, you're okay and we're all going to heaven" approach appeals to sinners. My pastor brought this up last Sunday. At death, we will be held accountable for the lives we live. That comes directly from the Bible - Luke 16:19-31, and that's the Truth which so many do not want to confront.

The 'megachurches' here, draw in huge crowds each weekend. The honest priest with Christ's message, is shunned. God bless this holy man!

17 posted on 02/21/2006 4:49:12 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: linda_22003

You mean as an Episcopalian we get 72 virgins? I missed that email.


18 posted on 02/21/2006 4:53:59 PM PST by servantboy777
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Surely, these jokers don't tell people they're going to heaven irrespective of what they've done in their lives?


19 posted on 02/21/2006 5:07:18 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Even a busted clock is right twice per day.

MEGACHURCH -- That's WorshipTainment!

20 posted on 02/21/2006 5:51:58 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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