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Mary: The Ark of the New Covenant
Catholic Culture ^ | February 24, 2006 | Steve Ray

Posted on 02/26/2006 11:29:18 AM PST by NYer

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21 posted on 02/26/2006 3:18:44 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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To: FormerLib
I always wonder what must motivate someone to post something in the Religion forum when they clearly intend only to insult anyone who holds faith in a Religion./i>

My religious faith was insulted by the article. Is this a Catholic forum or a religious forum?

22 posted on 02/26/2006 3:34:41 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: FormerLib
I always wonder what must motivate someone to post something in the Religion forum when they clearly intend only to insult anyone who holds faith in a Religion.

My religious faith was insulted by the article. Is this a Catholic forum or a religious forum?

23 posted on 02/26/2006 3:35:04 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: tenn2005; FormerLib
How would Luke or his friend have the understanding of the Hebrew language which "only a knowledgeable Jew would have understood?"

St. Luke had a great knowledge of the Septuagint and of things Jewish, which he acquired either as a Jewish proselyte (St. Jerome) or after he became a Christian, through his close intercourse with the Apostles and disciples.

Gospel of St. Luke

24 posted on 02/26/2006 3:37:03 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: AlaninSA
The Catholic Church defined what we now have in our Bibles. Protestants -- Luther, Calvin and others -- made additional changes.

They have never defined what I have in my Tanahk. We didn't adopt 2/3rds of your writings, I believe it was the other way around.

25 posted on 02/26/2006 3:38:18 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: the invisib1e hand

Mary is the blessed Mother and Queen of Heaven and Earth.


26 posted on 02/26/2006 3:40:25 PM PST by rambo316 (Social engineering does not work and never will.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Beautiful.


27 posted on 02/26/2006 3:44:58 PM PST by fatima (Just say it if it is for love-have no regrets.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
My religious faith was insulted by the article. Is this a Catholic forum or a religious forum?

How? Explain.

28 posted on 02/26/2006 3:51:30 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
My religious faith was insulted by the article.

So you intended to improve things by insulting the Roman Catholics? I fail to see any dignity in such an approach.

Is this a Catholic forum or a religious forum?

If it were only a Catholic forum, I wouldn't be allowed to post here.

29 posted on 02/26/2006 3:53:42 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: AlaninSA; Invincibly Ignorant
This only further demonstrates the degree of your ignorance. The writings of the OT at one time have included more and less of what we now consider canon. The Catholic Church defined what we now have in our Bibles. Protestants -- Luther, Calvin and others -- made additional changes.

Romans 3:
[1] Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision?
[2] Much in every way. To begin with, the Jews are entrusted with the oracles of God.

But then, what does Paul know?
30 posted on 02/26/2006 3:54:34 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: NYer

In context, this can only mean that Luke had acquired knowledge of the Jewish faith. Can that be such an amazing thing? I believe the Bible tells us of such Gentiles in several places.


31 posted on 02/26/2006 3:55:28 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib

The empire was full of gentiles who admired and studied the Jewish ways, and are often referred to as God-fearers. A lot of early Christians came from such backgrounds.


32 posted on 02/26/2006 4:13:52 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

What is your religious faith and how exactly was it insulted??


33 posted on 02/26/2006 4:17:10 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: OLD REGGIE
To begin with, the Jews are entrusted with the oracles of God.

This means that God revealed Himself to the Hebrews first, through Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Elias, and the prophets. It doesn't mean that they "regulate" what is Scripture. They don't have a Bible, only part of it. Because of the early Christians and their teachings, the rabbis of the late First Century/early Second Century A.D. finally decided what their "canon" of Scripture was, and they "conveniently" left out the part of the Old Testament that support resurrection of the dead, among other things.

34 posted on 02/26/2006 4:20:13 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: FormerLib

You should be on the thread that's been going on for 10 days. The same arguments and misconceptions, the same refutations. The same disagreements about interpretation. Another day, another round.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1578939/posts


35 posted on 02/26/2006 4:21:55 PM PST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: NYer

Thank you for this article...I was not born to Catholic parents, was never a Catholic...always was a Protestant..and yet, over the years, have come to doubt very much, that various Protestant religions actually have the whole truth within them, as they all have so many different and wildly varying beliefs...

I have long fought myself internally, regarding the Catholic religion...never did buy into the arguments that because they were supposedly around from the beginning of Christianity, and that their history, and traditions, and early church fathers, had more knowledge and more authority to speak about the truth of what the Bible said...

And yet...over the years, I have found myself drawn more and more to the Catholic faith... for a wide variety of reasons....one of those reasons, is that altho I do not participate in any of the religious threads on FR, I do manage to read almost all of them, and contemplate what is said in these threads, and pray over what I have read...

Without saying anything negative about any posters, or their postings, I will dwell on the positive...which is, that the Catholic posters, have brought forward a wealth of information, a wealth of historical information, and absolutely clear and stunning arguments and discussions for defending and supporting their faith....I am truly in awe of the Catholics who come here, and really, against some absolutely awful things being said about them, and to them, remain thoughtful, reverent, and willing to assist any and all who ask for help in understanding...

I have no doubt at this point in my life, that my further study into the Catholic religion is the direction that I should be taking...its just clearly apparent to me, that indeed, it is the Catholic religion which does hold within it, the Truth...and this is something that even just a few years ago, I would have never dreamed of saying...

So thanks to all those Catholics on these threads, who through their own diligent perseverance when under attack, are able to remain patient, helpful, and most of all, civil...and so very willing to share so much of their beliefs, their history, and their traditions...I think its their faith, in action...

So thanks to all, who have been effective evangelizers for the Catholic faith...perhaps one day, I shall be able to count myself among you...


36 posted on 02/26/2006 5:05:47 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; Pyro7480
My religious faith was insulted by the article. Is this a Catholic forum or a religious forum?

It's a religious forum, and Catholicism is a religion. Surprise!
37 posted on 02/26/2006 6:22:00 PM PST by Deo volente
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To: andysandmikesmom

"So thanks to all, who have been effective evangelizers for the Catholic faith...perhaps one day, I shall be able to count myself among you..."

Wonderful post! Lent is coming up, starting on Wednesday: perhaps you can journey with us as we anticipate Christ's most glorious Death and Resurrection, and use it as a time to learn more about the Faith.


38 posted on 02/26/2006 6:25:32 PM PST by tlRCta (Oh, Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner!)
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To: tlRCta
"as we anticipate Christ's most glorious Death and Resurrection"

Perhaps "commemorate" would be a better word than "anticipate."
39 posted on 02/26/2006 6:27:22 PM PST by tlRCta (Oh, Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner!)
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To: tlRCta

Thank you...It would be a worthwhile journey, beginning on Wed...I will be sure to read everyones comments...and pray that they lead me closer to what I have been searching for...


40 posted on 02/26/2006 6:33:10 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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