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1 posted on 03/03/2006 8:40:12 AM PST by NYer
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Coincidentally, this week, Alejandro Bermudez from Catholic News Agency, suddendly shut down his blog - Catholic Outsider. He said his goodbyes, departed and the blog has been completely removed.


2 posted on 03/03/2006 8:42:20 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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Thanks for this article, NYer!


3 posted on 03/03/2006 8:43:49 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Posted on Fri, Mar. 03, 2006

Archbishop silences priest's 'Voice'

Flynn forbids online, radio messages

BY STEVE SCOTT
Pioneer Press

The homilies and presentations of a St. Paul priest can no longer be published on his Web site or broadcast on a Catholic radio network by request of the archbishop of St. Paul and Minneapolis, according to the priest's Web site.

The Rev. Robert Altier of St. Agnes Church posted a message Thursday that said: "In obedient compliance with the expressed written request of Most Reverend Harry J. Flynn … Father Altier's homilies and spiritual presentations can no longer be published on www.desertvoice.org or broadcast on Relevant Radio.''

The archdiocese had no comment about the decision, and Altier could not be reached for comment Thursday.

Altier is a prominent voice in conservative Catholic circles and operates a Web site called A Voice in the Desert. He has spoken out against a sex-abuse prevention program being taught throughout the archdiocese, including to schoolchildren. Such programs were mandated in all dioceses by U.S. bishops as part of their response to the clergy abuse crisis.

Opponents — including the Twin Cities-based nonprofit group Catholic Parents Online, of which Altier is the spiritual adviser — say the programs are too explicit for children and usurp parents' roles in teaching their children about sexuality.

Archdiocese spokesman Dennis McGrath could not confirm the reason for Flynn's directive because the archbishop did not discuss any communication he had with Altier. McGrath said no impropriety had occurred. "Any communication between a priest and the archbishop is personal and confidential,'' McGrath said. "But obviously there is a point of disagreement there someplace in his homilies or some of the things on the radio.''

Relevant Radio is at 1330-AM in the Twin Cities.

Steve Scott may be reached at sscott@pioneerpress.com or 651-228-5526.

5 posted on 03/03/2006 8:46:04 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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It is Father Alitier's contention that there is a simple and real truth behind scandal. "I got sick and tired of all the lies. I just laid it out. There are three groups that have infiltrated the Church, the Masons, the Communists, and the homosexuals, who came in 1924," he alleges. "85 percent of all the abuse cases are homosexual. There is rank homosexuality. Homosexuals chose the best and brightest and best looking and put them into the priesthood."

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I guess now we know why he has been silenced. Pray for our Church.


6 posted on 03/03/2006 8:46:27 AM PST by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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The "big tent" only seems to go one way. This reminds me of Cardinal Egan trying to send Fr. Pavone back to parish work.


7 posted on 03/03/2006 8:47:03 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To whom do we appeal to have ArchBishop Harry Flynn removed?


9 posted on 03/03/2006 8:51:02 AM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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Cached documents still available on Google for any interested.

www.desertvoice.org - Google cache

15 posted on 03/03/2006 8:53:46 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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I managed to salvage this link to an archive of sermon audio recordings earlier today:

ftp://217.160.246.215/pub/audionet/Desert_Voice/


45 posted on 03/03/2006 9:51:42 AM PST by Ozone34
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This one (linked from the article) is a must-read. Wanderer readers already know about this, but other folks may not.

Flynn is not doing the Faith any favors by silencing this brave priest; he's trying to save face for himself and other bishops. A bishop with guts (e.g., Bruskewitz) would promote him to Vicar General or something.

50 posted on 03/03/2006 10:12:25 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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The word over on Dom's blog (scroll down) is that the main reason for Fr. Altier's removal is his outspoken opposition to the Virtus and Talking About Touching programs instituted by the bishops in the wake of the clerical abuse scandal.

Fr. Altier apparently riled Flynn last year when he weighed in on the Teresa Kettlekamp controversy in one of his published homilies. Ms. Kettlekamp is the Director of the USCCB's Office of Child and Youth Protection and guess who is the Chairman of the Bishop's ad hoc committee of the same name?? That's right, Archbishop Flynn. Kettlekamp is a former colonel in the Illinois state police, was/is a member of the advisory board of the National Center for Women and Policing, an arm of the pro-abortion Feminist Majority Foundation. It's worth noting that this wonderful committee is designed to protect our children from our very own priests.....but I digress. Kettelkamp fired off a four page memo to all US Dioceses last year about compulsory instruction for children (batted about at great length here on FR) and Altier ripped her and the memo.

Anyhow, Flynn was ticked big time, so the story goes and he fired off a vigorous defense of said lady. However, it would appear that this was not the end of the matter and Fr. Altier has just found out the depths of Flynn's anger.

Bottom line: US bishops will exercise their episcopal authority. But only when they are personally affronted and not to safeguard souls from heresy and heterodoxy.

52 posted on 03/03/2006 10:17:23 AM PST by marshmallow
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There are three groups that have infiltrated the Church, the Masons, the Communists, and the homosexuals, who came in 1924," he alleges.

I think I can vouch for the Communists. On Ash Wednesday, here in Houston, the sermon was on GLOBAL WARMING and how Americans use of oil is going to destroy the Earth. It was a recommendation to give up driving a lot for Lent.

I was appauled. Why are American Catholics so liberal? Besides being inaccurate, it was inappropriate. There are many things that would be better to discuss or to recommend giving up. I never hear sermons condemning abortion or the homosexual lifestyle. The Pope does, but not American churches.

54 posted on 03/03/2006 10:25:23 AM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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Harry Flynn used to be my bishop. From the beginning, he has shown a considerable love (or fear) of the homosexual lobbyists. When Human Life International had its international conference in St. Paul, Flynn at first agreed to celebrate the opening Mass, concelebrating with Cardinal Arinze, but the queer lobby got to him, and he withdrew his agreement, leaving other attendee clergy to do the honors. He has never made a single decision that I know of that has not made a gesture of conciliation to queers from all over the state. In Flynn's archdiocese, they are his pets, and priests like Father Altier are treated like redheaded stepchildren.


56 posted on 03/03/2006 10:36:10 AM PST by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain...)
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Bump for later read exploration. Seems like a lot of good and interesting info is coming across on this one.
58 posted on 03/03/2006 11:02:37 AM PST by TotusTuus
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What are his positions on Biblical inerrancy and evolution?


59 posted on 03/03/2006 11:40:43 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatata 'el ha'aron 'et ha`eidut 'asher 'ettein 'eleykha.)
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Reading the lives of some Saints I discovered that often they obeyed their Bishops or other superiors even when the Bishop was wrong in their views.
They obeyed even though it did cause great spiritual and mental anguish to themselves. Because they knew that their rightness was known to God. This priest is surely speaking the truth and no doubt God will make sure that in good time the priest's message will be heard and embraced. Especially by the Bishop. Meanwhile the priest should bear the duty of obedience he promised with grace and humility.


66 posted on 03/03/2006 1:04:46 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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The priest has also harped on the need for deliverance.

"I did an awful lot of deliverance work, and the bishop shut it down," claimed Father Altier. "He said he didn't want any priest in his diocese doing this."

I'm wondering just what this part means? Was he performing exorcisms of some kind or just advocating the Sacrement of Confession?

78 posted on 03/04/2006 4:13:04 AM PST by Diva
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There are some new links here:

Carmelite Coat of Arms Pray for

A Voice in the Desert

About Father Altier and the Desert Voice Website

A Statement from the Webmaster at Desert Voice

Is this the reason Father Altier was silenced?
Archdiocesan spokesman confirms Father Altier innocent of any impropriety



In obedient compliance with the expressed written request of

Most Reverend Harry J. Flynn

Archbishop of the Archdiocese of Saint Paul and Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

Father Altier’s homilies and spiritual presentations
can no longer be published on www.desertvoice.org

or broadcast on Relevant Radio.

This action of the Archbishop is not related to any scandal
or sexual misconduct on the part of Father Robert Altier.

We regret any inconvenience and humbly ask for your prayers.

All concerns should be directed in a spirit of charity to:

Archdiocese of Saint Paul and Minneapolis

 Most Reverend Harry J. Flynn
226 Summit Avenue
Saint Paul, MN, USA 55102
(651) 291-4400

communications@archspm.org


86 posted on 03/05/2006 11:35:24 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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