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To: DouglasKC
Douglas isn't trying to post "interesting" information about where "Easter came from."

He is a crackpot cultist trying to tear people away from their Christian denominations so they will join his cult.

This nonsense has already been posted to multiple threads, but Doug has to continue to spread his gospel of hate, sh!tting all over people's festivities.

Hey, guess what Dougie? Pagans had sex. I guess that means Christians who have sex are committing idolatry.
And pagans had children. I guess that means Christians who have children are committing idolatry.
And pagans invented geometry, algebra and calculus. I guess that means Christians who do High School math are committing idolatry.

A brief summary of the REAL truth:

Easter eggs come from the Catholic tradition of fasting from meat during lent. They could choose when to kill their animals, and therefore not kill anything during lent, but they couldn't get their chickens to stop laying eggs during lent. So they'd save them up all Lent, and then break the fast by eating them. The ancient Jews used eggs in their passover ritual, representing new life. Why? Because they were following some pagan gods? No! Duh, because it's an obvious representation of new life.

The name "Easter" is unique to Anglo-Saxons. It's not likely to have anything to do with Eostre, directly. Rather, it's named after a month, named after a direction, named after Eostre. Eostre is a goddess of war, not of fertility as falsely claimed. There is no connection between Eostre and any of the Easter festivals. Asserting Easter is pagan is like asserting Holy Thursday is pagan, because its name stems from the Norse god of thunder, Thor. Outside of Anglo-Saxon culture, Easter is still universally known by a word stemming from "passover."

The cross on hot cross buns represents the cross. Duh.

The closest thing to pagan is the notion of the Easter Bunny. When Protestants wanted to continue the tradition of Easter eggs, they were at a loss for how to explain their significance. A common bird in Germany builds a nest very much like hares do. Many people searching for hares would come across what they presumed to be hares' nests, and found them full of eggs. So started the German notion of hares (not bunnies; that's a British morphing of the tradition) mysteriously bringing eggs.

Did other German religions create stories for why hares had eggs. You betcha. Did people create Easter Bunnies as a way of preserving pagan religions? No way.

We know for a fact that the cult of Eostre was long dead by the time Christians arrived in England, and the practices of Eostre had died with it, and those practices had nothing to do with the Easter practices.

13 posted on 04/14/2006 9:28:21 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Just in case you missed it, this is what Doug's cult says about the time of the birth of Christ:

>>Neither can Easter claim to be the time of Christ's conception, His birth coming in the autumn (3312 years before His death in the spring).<<

He also says:

>> Yet God makes no mention of the equinox in relation to the timing of Passover, only of the new moon and the beginning of the spring harvest. <<

... and Easter starts, not in relation to the equinox, but in relation to the first new moon after the equinox. If it started in relation to the equinox, it would be on the same day every year. The lunar calendar is tied to the solar calendar by the equinoxes, so no, God didn't mention the equinoxes. But what defines a lunar month?

>> The length of the festival varied greatly from five days in Rome to 11 in Mesopotamia and included the ancients' New Year's festivals. <<

Funny. Three is less than five to 11. What's the connection.

>> Some involved a week of fasting and purification before the festival proper began. <<

Yes, fasting exists in nearly every culture. (Pagans eat; I guess eating must be pagan, too.) But how does one week of fasting relate to 40 days? It doesn't.

>> As mentioned, the actual rites of Isis lasted one day and two nights. In Byblos the death of Adonis was mourned for two days by Venus Urania before he was resurrected and ascended into heaven, accompanied by great joy. Kybele mourned for Attis for two days before finding him and celebrating throughout the third day.<<

When Jesus died, the sky turned black. Day became night. Even pagan observers wrote, bewildered at the occurence. Then daylight broke again. Then "normal night" came. Then daylight broke again. Then another normal night. Then daylight broke again. And with the break of dawn, Jesus rose from the dead. This sounds odd, but it reconciles what would otherwise be a conflict in the scriptures: some places say he rose on the third day. Others said he would rise after three days. But "on the third day," means at most two days.

>> Easter specifically also seems to celebrate political corruption, murder and incest. <<

Huh? I'll leave it up to y'all to decide if your Easter observances celebrate corruption, murder and incest.


14 posted on 04/14/2006 9:47:02 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
One thing I've always noticed about Doug's post is that he always backs up his theology with scripture. In this particular instance these customs, superstitions and traditions have nothing to do with scripture.

Is this....He is a crackpot cultist trying to tear people away from their Christian denominations so they will join his cult .....the best you can do? Can't you quote anything Biblical to support your position? You sound very angry.

20 posted on 04/15/2006 8:30:54 AM PDT by Diego1618
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To: dangus
Douglas isn't trying to post "interesting" information about where "Easter came from." He is a crackpot cultist trying to tear people away from their Christian denominations so they will join his cult.
This nonsense has already been posted to multiple threads, but Doug has to continue to spread his gospel of hate, sh!tting all over people's festivities.

I do seem like a crackpot cultist to you...and that's okay. You think I am because you do not accept the word of God, but instead embrace that which is not of God. You reject God's holy days which are clearly outlined by the God of the universe and accept your own holidays, which are clearly manmade in origin and steeped with pagan customs and traditions. . You can't handle the truth, so you lash out with anger and ridicule.

I will gladly point out that these "festivals" are just that, festivals masquerading as real holy days.

Deu 12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou inquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
Deu 12:31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

25 posted on 04/15/2006 11:11:57 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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