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To: Teófilo
"I don't think that the text of the gospel of Judas is referring to the customary blessing given during Jewish seder or Passover meals, which is the type of the Christian Eucharist and the primary occasion of Christ's Last Supper. First, because the blessing or motzi is not the central act of the Jewish Passover meal, but the retelling of the Exodus deliverance story or maggid. What set apart the Last Supper from the seder is precisely the centrality of Jesus' eukaristos or thanksgiving, by which He offered himself up to the Father as the Lamb of the New Covenant. Since then, the term eukaristia has had a very specific meaning to Christians. This is precisely what the Apostles are doing and what Judas' "Jesus" reproved as misguided act of worship to a false "god"!"

Wait a minute - since this was to have accurred before the last supper, how could the apostles have been conducting a christian eucharist, since Jesus first conducted it there?

Maybe he was moking whatever they were doing.

11 posted on 04/18/2006 9:00:15 AM PDT by patton (Once you steal a firetruck, there's really not much else you can do except go for a joyride.)
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To: patton
Maybe he was moking whatever they were doing.

Gnostics showed little regard for chronological accuracy. Facts didn't get in the way of their arguments.

The author(s) of Judas sought to undermine the Church of the second century by attacking its apostolic origins. The author(s) of Judas made the apostles act like second century orthodox Catholics bishops. Those who heard these words could make the connection quite easily:

Oh, Jesus rebuked the apostles for wrong worship! Why, this is what our own bishops are doing! May be I should listen to this Judas thing...maybe what it says is true.

Farfetched? It's happening today.

-Theo

13 posted on 04/18/2006 9:30:00 AM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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