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Since I'm the one responsible for carrying and raising the babies I have I believe I should have a say in when enough is enough.

Most Catholics agree. Andrew Greeley discovered almost 40 years ago with his surveys that over 90% of American Catholics ignored Papal teachings on birth control. I doubt that's changed.

That's what happens when the clergy is celibate and doesn't experience the reality of marriage and kids.

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That's what happens when the clergy is celibate and doesn't experience the reality of marriage and kids.

Yeah, sure. It was that way for 800 years before the 1960s. How come Catholics didn't contracept before then?

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Andrew Greeley discovered almost 40 years ago with his surveys that over 90% of American Catholics ignored Papal teachings on birth control. I doubt that's changed.

Truth is not determined by majority vote.

That's what happens when the clergy is celibate and doesn't experience the reality of marriage and kids.

A throwaway response, so you can avoid grappling with the issues. The Catholic clergy is simply re-iterating what was common Christian teaching among all Christians until 1930.

And what about all of us who (a) are not celibate; and (b) don't contracept; and (c) most certainly experience the reality of marriage and kids? Doesn't our opinion count for anything?

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That's what happens when the clergy is celibate and doesn't experience the reality of marriage and kids.

YEAH! Thank goodness that we don't have men as obstetricians and gynecologists! They've never been pregnant or have menstruated!

AND, so glad that there are no young doctors who work with geriatrics!

Oh, wait......