Gregory Baum has written that today God can only be experienced in the horizontal dimension, that is in one's neighbor; the community collectivized along radical socialist lines is God redemptively present. (Baum) therefore propose that the Church "compose a creed which proclaims the Gospel of Christ and declares the divine redemption present in human life in ordinary secular language...It is possible to proclaim the Gospel without mentioning God by name."Spit.
Both father and son (father and Father?) are superb.
"We are called, we are chosen.
We are Christ for one another.
We are promise to tomorrow,
while we are for him today.
We are sign, we are wonder,
we are sower, we are seed.
We are harvest, we are hunger.
We are question, we are creed."
"We are lacking definite and indefinite articles."
Those lyrics are obnoxious.
Yesterday at the teen mass we sat through Celebrate Youth: "Celebrate peace! Celebrate love! Celebrate youth!" Sure kids, give yourself a pat on the back here.
Celibate youth, on the other hand, has a lot to recommend it.
For example, in the song "Hosea" by Gregory Norbet, OSB, we sing God's words to us:
Come back to me with all your heart,
don't let fear keep us apart.
Long have I waited for your coming home to me
and living deeply our new life.
This one always makes me cringe. Sounds like something Barry Manilow might sing at a highway rest stop. Creepy. And we hear it a lot during Lent.
"Just as Narcissus's self-adulation rendered himself incapable of a relationship and therefore of love, so also these hymns of conceit cripple our ability to speak with God. If God sees that we are so smitten with our own presence, He may judge us unfit to enter His."
My former best friend's narcissism destroyed our once great friendship because he is too arrogant to forgive the mistakes of others.
If ever there was a time where egocentrism runs rampant, that time is NOW.
Anyone been to Europe lately? The pews are empty over there, and the closed churches are being converted to Mosques.
Many Proddies on this board will agree with the premise of this thread.
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Ritus Narcissus ... a natural outcome in the age where all is measured against the self.
Yet our God died nastily, with blood and pain and smells and anguish and grief on the cross.
And he asks us to look at him.
And he comes to us in the eyes of the needy, and in the belly of the hungry, and in the call of the bereaved and lost and lonely and defenseless.
But any gospel that denies the Cross, that place where Heaven and Earth come together in an act of love more profound than we can imagine, where God-With-Us, Jesus our Emmanuel gives his all to save our rotten butts and to transform us from the petty self-centered mean-spirited sinful and corrupt people we tend to be when he is not in our lives into something far beyond what we deserve is no gospel at all.
There is no good news without God at the center of it.
If this is Fr Scalia's biggest problem he is a lucky man.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you for posting this article!!! I've sent copies off to the pastor at my parish as well as the assistant pastor.
DING! DING! DING!
Right on target!
Excellent thread.
Are the offenders named Hass, Hurd, Schutte, etc. -- can't thing of some of the other names.
In my estimation, the songs we sing should be of praise and worship to Our Lord, Jesus Christ, God the Father or the Holy Spirit. Building on the Bible is good too as long as it remains focused on the celebration and holiness of Christ in the Mass.
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