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"We all know homosexuality a sin. No disagreement there."

The condition of homosexuality is not a sin in and of itself.....it is succumbing to the same sex act that is sinful.

This is where we have done a disservice these past 30 yrs to gays. We have not taught them they do have a choice to overcome those unnatural urges. Instead we as a society have told them to succumb, it's who they are, accept it, there is nothing you can do about it. It's like trying to put the genie back in the bottle. Only now are we really hearing about the other side of sexual orientation from ex-gays but their voices are ridiculed when heard, they are heard at all.

I say who better knows the gay person than the ex-gay just as who better knows the alcoholic than the ex-alcoholice or sex-addict than the ex-sex addict. All finally overcame those abnormal urges. We need to teach our youth and society, there is a choice and at the very least allow them to make the choice. Finally, we do need to understand those who are burdened with same sex urges, pray for them and tell them the truth with love and compassion, not ridicule and hate as Fred Phelps lunatic group does.

I say who better knows the gay person than the ex-gay just as who better knows the alcoholic than the ex-alcoholice or sex-addict than the ex-sex addict.

I think you limit your perspective with that theory. Certainly the exes can shed some light on the pattern and thinking involved. But too often exes offer excuses which leads to over sympathizing with sin and even blaming outside things for something that starts as a sin of the heart. So I would disagree with the condition itself not being sin. Coveting is sin that manifests itself outwardly as greed, theft and things like that. Lust is a sin that manifests itself outwardly as sexual immorality, pornography, homosexuality etc. The line between an initial temptation and a sinful dwelling on the idea is crossed very early.

Many who get caught up in homosexuality do so not because of any inward attraction so much as they get caught up in a social group that practices it. Loneliness leads to keeping bad company leads to corrupting good morals. You bring up alcoholics. Good example. They don't crave alcohol until after the fact. That's is precisely what happens with some people who practice homosexuality.

You do a disservice to them by telling them the lust is not sin. They are not victims. They are sinners who need to grieve over their sin and repent. Being embarrassed and ashamed of it is a good thing. When others say, "that's disgusting" they are simply reacting to an obvious truth. Not everyone believes the gospel, but everyone can perceive that homosexuality is disgusting and unnatural. They are not hateful to say so. You would do well to have at least as much compassion for others as you do for homosexuals.

All finally overcame those abnormal urges.

If it were a state it couldn't be overcome. So there is a contradiction. Can someone overcome heterosexuality? They can deal with lust and not act on it, but they are still hetersexual. I just have an issue with your premise because I think it is an obstacle by providing an exuse. There is no exuse for our sin. Compassion must be pure to be of real value. A broken and contrite heart is the point where all sinners start to have hope. I think the state-of-being theory hinders that goal.