[Antoninus]

SNAP and VOTF have always been fronts for anti-Catholic/barely Catholic liberal groups like Call-to-Action and FutureChurch. They prey upon victims of sex abuse more than help them. They have no interest in addressing the root causes of the abuse crisis (i.e., homosexuality in the priesthood)--they are much more interested in using the crisis and the victims to bludgeon the Church and turn it in a direction amenable to their goals.

They will fail.

[lastchance]

You are right. The biggest danger to the faithful of the Church are not anti Catholic outsiders- but to the so called Catholic insiders who disguise their desire for the Church's downfall with pleadings for Reform. Yes there are good Catholics who want to see true Reform. Meaning a return to the teachings of the Church by her Clergy and laity. A return to a liturgy that truly glorifies God and His love for us. These reformers love the Church as Christ's bride on Earth and would never prostitute her.

But those like VOTF want a false Reformation. One that denies the Church's teachings and sets them up as their own popes. You can tell the enemies of the Church by their fruits. Bitterness, rancor, hatred, disobedience, contempt and slander are not fruits of the Holy Spirit. These are fruits of the Spirit of The Age.
These wolves need to be sent packing and kept out of the sheep fold.

[IIntense]

(i.e., homosexuality in the priesthood)

Are these priests homosexuals or are they pedophiles? Has this distinction been clearly determined? In either case, obviously, this behavior is despicable.

I would like to be able to give a knowledgeable answer to someone who insists they are not homosexuals, but pedophiles.

[kgcyclist]

I must agree with the general comment - particularly with VOTF - but I am concerned that we are grouping all the SNAP members with VOTF members. I personally know the Arizona representative of SNAP, and both he and I came from the same parish that blew the whistle at Father Cunningham when he was suspended. He and I have done music together for years, and we have been part of the St Anne's community - a very conservative parish - for several years. If SNAP as a whole is following VOTF's path, then they are being badly mislead. I have to believe that my friend would either resist this trend or leave his post outright.