Posted on 05/07/2006 3:14:21 PM PDT by tenn2005
Because it has been made obsolete. (Heb 8:13)
In China, on the calendar, Sunday is the 7th day.
In the OT, there were many kinds of Sabbaths, weeks of Sabbath; a Sabbath year.
To me, Christ effectively settled it when He said that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
In any case, I hate haggling over it.
I try to dedicate all the remaining minutes of my life to Christ and His Kingdom and to rest etc. at least one day a week and worship and fellowship with Believers extra that day.
I guess it all boils down to how you define the new covenant.
Isn't that the truth!! Let's focus on our days left before it starts. ;o)
k04>...then how is the Sabbath and the Law gone?
t2005>Because it has been made obsolete. (Heb 8:13)
61 posted on 05/08/2006 9:34:06 AM MDT by tenn2005
It appears to be commentary on Jeremiah 31. When I read the whole chapter,
b'shem Y'shua
I get a different understanding.
Catholic theologians would respond that adultery (indeed, all sexual morality) is a matter of natural law and therefore binding on all people, everywhere, at all times. Mosaic Law merely codified it and specified penalties. Ditto for commandments like "Thou shalt not kill."
The Sabbath is a different case. You can derive the existence of God and the requirement to worship him from natural law. You can perhaps also derive the requirement to conduct that worship at regular intervals of time. But you can't derive the requirement to conduct that worship specifically on Saturday, as opposed to any other day. The requirement to keep the Saturday Sabbath specifically is a law given to the Jews at Sinai, not to all mankind. Hence it is not binding on Christians, and can be replaced or abrogated by the Church of Christ.
No, it depends on how God defines the new covenant and He does this through the writings of the New Testament apostles and profits.
Freedom in Christ permits me to live without having to design my life around all of those laws.
As a matter of fact, the Council of Jerusalem spelled out for Gentile Christians those things necessary. These were the restricted behaviors:
1. No sexual immorality.
2. No drinking blood.
3. No eating strangled kill. (Road Kill Cafe :>)
4. No idol worship.
You might notice there was no requirement to:
a. get circumcised.
b. wash hands, pots, cups, forks, etc.
c. wear religious symbols.
d. assemble on Saturday.
e. assemble on Sunday.
f. Celebrate Yom Kippur, Tabernacles, Passover, etc.
g. a whole host of other things.
But....if you feel like doing so, go for it. Legal living is a great comfort for some folks.
see #68
I agree with most of your post. However, I hope you are not saying there is no requirement for Christians to assemble together.
Amen!
Our eyes on the prize as Paul said.
"And, behold, I saw an angel stand before the legions of men, and he sayeth unto them: Behold, the timepiece of the Lord. Let every man amongst you receive an SK-514 Timex watch. And if thou wilt not take a watch, check your cell phone."
:^D I think it was in the Book of Judas, or the Book of Mary Magdeline, or something like that. I'm a litte suspicious as to its authenticity, though. It's printed text, on a variable-width font, with a pastel Garfield lying across the top blue line of eah page.
I'm saying there's no REQUIREMENT to observe a particular day.
The example of meeting on the Lord's Day is based on love for our Resurrected Savior.
Paul says that we should not forsake the assembling of ourselves together. That can be daily, weekly, monthly...whatever.
I have no desire, on the other hand, to create a new list of "commandments" by taking the directions of the apostles and turning them into "laws."
I am free in Christ. And if Christ has made me free, then I am free INDEED!
My 2 cents:
Matthew is a book written primarily to the Jews to show them that Christ was who He claimed to be. His actions and words in that book show the Jewish people to be glaringly lacking in keeping the law, and their false pride in their works.
The Gospel of Grace is not present in Matthew.
That shows us the need to follow these instructions from Paul:
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
In the book of Matthew, for most of it anyway, Christ is alive.
Hebrews 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
So we look to the books past the death of the testator to build New Testament doctrine, rightly dividing the word of truth as Paul says.
Now, if one flips over to Galatians 2, you can be treated to a wonderful explanation by Paul as to why we no longer follow the law.
(Snip)http://www.justbible.com/Chapters/B48C002.htm
For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.
19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20 I am crucified with Christ: neverthless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
This of course takes place during the Tribulation and there will be a remnant of believing Jews.
Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Are you referring to Jews who have obeyed the Gospel and become Christians?
Yes, they will be Messanic Jews.
I don't understand the need for the term "Messianic Jews". If they are Christians, then they should be glad to be called by that name.
Thanks!
This will be during the time of the tribulation and the Bible makes it clear even which tribe they are from, but they become the new missionaries to the world as a whole when the Christian are taken out at the rapture.
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