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To: suzyjaruki
I come away thinking the author of the posted article is on a heresy hunt and looks for heresy in all the wrong places.

E.L. Bynum is a well respected pastor. He isn't the only person to expose this false teaching of Macarthur's, he is just the one I found first.

14 posted on 05/21/2006 5:27:55 PM PDT by Full Court (¶Let no man deceive you by any means)
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To: Full Court; Alex Murphy
John MacArthur is a well respected pastor.

Full Court, how do you define heresy?

17 posted on 05/21/2006 5:42:27 PM PDT by suzyjaruki (God is my confidence.)
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To: Full Court

E.L. Bynum is no authority to appeal to. He is liked by people who agree with him. MacArthur is liked by people who agree with him. I do say that E.L. Bynum has managed to select some damning (in the figurative sense!) quotes from MacArthur, and unlike Graham, these quotes are from a book, not merely extemporaneous speech. (It is one thing to misstate oneself when speeking extemporaneously; it is another to publish a book with misleading wordings!)


28 posted on 05/21/2006 9:08:19 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Full Court; AlbionGirl; Alex Murphy; suzyjaruki; HarleyD; George W. Bush; 1000 silverlings; ...
Glad to see you've returned, FC.

MacArthur has been the object of a witch hunt for years in certain Baptist circles because of his Reformed beliefs. Once you say you believe that God has ordained the future as well as the past, free-willers of all stripes come out to take their shots.

Generally, that's because if you deny free will, you've taken away the mechanism by which the temporal powers of this world control us worker bees.

Either God controls His creation, or men control it. And if men control, other men will tell you you're free while usurping your freedom. Same old, same old.

I agree, Albion Girl, that MacArthur seems to be arguing against the idolization of any matter, even Christ's blood. How different is His actual human blood than the supposed relic of His foreskin? It's all magick. The body does not matter. Christ's atonement is what saves; His act of standing in our place and taking on our punishment for sins when we should be sentenced to the fire. I like a Baptist arguing against ceremonial relics. My Presbyterian upbringing cringes at the very thought of Christ's infused righteousness going into anything of this world other than the spiritual hearts and minds of His sheep.

I disagree with MacArthur over his dispensationalism, although generally he's not rabid in that belief.

I've admired him on Larry King's show several times when he's on a panel of idolators, goats and New Age fools who preach universalism and the voodoo economics of salvation. He's the ONLY one to stand up for Biblical truth and declare that ONLY Christ saves. For that, he's targeted as an enemy to many.

The following CNN Larry King transcripts are very telling -- they portray precisely the world in which we live.

WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WE DIE?

and...

GOD AND GOOD VS. EVIL

and...

ThE WAR IN IRAQ

51 posted on 05/24/2006 9:26:53 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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