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"Besides, most of the services are so small, Ward said, there's no point in drawing more attention to them."

LOL. That is probably a pretty good strategy.

'"Anywhere from three to 30 people have attended the services, which began in March. Though the services contain the hallmarks of a Catholic Mass, some rituals have been tweaked. Clergy and laity gather and walk to the front of the church. Phrases such as ``our mother'' and ``she'' are regularly interspersed with the more familiar ``our Father'' and ``he.'' Homilies resemble Bible study sessions as priests sit and invite congregants to share their thoughts on the teachings.'

Now they've descended into New Age goo and egalitarian feel good semantics - everyone's viewpoints are equally valid. Like all heretical movements doomed to fail, they go too far with this.

'``I just knew so many spiritual, educated women in my life. I wonder if they were priests what could they have accomplished.'''

Mother Theresa was not a priest. Being a priest in and of itself is not an accomplishment. What one makes of one's life is what is important.

'"She knows some will treat her as an outcast in the faith she deeply loves. She's currently using her maiden name, not wanting to be excommunicated before she becomes a priest.'

Ah, so she has to lie in order to sneak herself into becoming a "priest". If she was so principled, she should be willing to subject herself to excommunication. These people are a bunch of phonies.

59 posted on 06/01/2006 11:19:45 AM PDT by ValenB4 ("Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets." - Isaac Asimov)
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To: ValenB4
... Being a priest in and of itself is not an accomplishment. What one makes of one's life is what is important.

Exactly. This is such blatant, out-and-out clericalism.

As laity, our mission is the transformation of the world in the light of the Gospel. That's not enough?

Their actions clearly communicate laity = nothing, priests = everything.

But the really interesting people in Catholicism are not the priests or the popes, but the saints.

If Mary the Mother of God, a laywoman, were to appear to Pope Benedict, which of the two would drop to their knees?

67 posted on 06/01/2006 11:48:48 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ( No tagline at this time: I'm speechless.)
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To: ValenB4
Mother Theresa was not a priest. Being a priest in and of itself is not an accomplishment.

Bingo. The Catholic church has always had plenty of opportunities for women to be Chaste, Poor, and Obedient. Oh, how does a so-call woman priest get around the Obedience part?

79 posted on 06/01/2006 1:32:10 PM PDT by ichabod1 (The Glory Hath Gone Out Of Israel)
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To: ValenB4
'``I just knew so many spiritual, educated women in my life. I wonder if they were priests what could they have accomplished.'''

It's mind-blowing what lay ministers have accomplished. It's sad that pride pushes them to the front of the line. Of course, the line is to an empty room, but the analogy stands.

90 posted on 06/01/2006 5:58:32 PM PDT by technochick99 ( Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: ValenB4

>> Mother Theresa was not a priest. Being a priest in and of itself is not an accomplishment. What one makes of one's life is what is important. <<

Much, much, much less. According to the excellent book, "The Soul of the Apostolate," a tiny, almost miniscule, portion of saints were pastors.


95 posted on 06/01/2006 8:23:59 PM PDT by dangus
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To: ValenB4

I guess that means that God called satanists to be priests too...They have held their masses long before these women did.


130 posted on 07/16/2006 7:32:03 AM PDT by fishbabe
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