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New US church leader says homosexuality no sin
Reuters ^ | 6/19/6

Posted on 06/19/2006 1:10:35 PM PDT by SmithL

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Newly elected leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said on Monday she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender.

Jefferts Schori, bishop of the Diocese of Nevada, was elected on Sunday as the first woman leader of the 2.3 million-member Episcopal Church. the U.S. branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion. She will formally take office later this year.

Interviewed on CNN, Jefferts Schori was asked if it was a sin to be homosexual.

"I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said.

"Some people come into this world with affections ordered toward other people of the same gender and some people come into this world with affections directed at people of the other gender."

Jefferts Schori's election seemed certain to exacerbate splits within a Episcopal Church that is already deeply divided over homosexuality with several dioceses and parishes threatening to break away.

It could also widen divisions with other Anglican communities, including the Church of England, which do not allow women bishops. In the worldwide Anglican church women are bishops only in Canada, the United States and New Zealand.

Three years ago when the Church last met in convention, a majority of U.S. bishops backed the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The Robinson issue has been particularly criticized in Africa where the church has a growing membership and where homosexuality is often taboo.

Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters, supported the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The 52-year-old bishop is married to Richard Schori, a retired theoretical mathematician. They have one daughter, Katharine Johanna, 24, a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and a pilot like her mother.

Asked how she reconciled her position on homosexuality with specific passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions.

"The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said.

"The Bible tells us about how to treat other human beings, and that's certainly the great message of Jesus -- to include the unincluded."


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: episcopal; homosexualagenda
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1 posted on 06/19/2006 1:10:37 PM PDT by SmithL
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Eliminate sin by defining nothing as sin. Satan must be very satisfied.


2 posted on 06/19/2006 1:11:31 PM PDT by SmithL (The fact that they can't find Hoffa is proof that he never existed.)
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To: SmithL

According to ECUSA, believing in the existence os sin is the only sin.


3 posted on 06/19/2006 1:12:32 PM PDT by Macrinus
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To: SmithL

Just another smorgasboard Christian church.
What next? Will she say it’s OK to marry my Cocker Spaniel?


4 posted on 06/19/2006 1:16:53 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: SmithL

Schori = Apostate


5 posted on 06/19/2006 1:17:36 PM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: SmithL

My MILs gonna have a cow! That's her church!


6 posted on 06/19/2006 1:17:54 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: SmithL

Mix just enough truth with damnable lies and gullible people are dying to drink it.


7 posted on 06/19/2006 1:18:08 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: SmithL
She's right. Homosexuality (i.e. attraction to members of the same sex) is not a sin.

The sin is sodomy.

8 posted on 06/19/2006 1:18:13 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: SmithL

I guess Leviticus 18 has been removed their Bibles.


9 posted on 06/19/2006 1:19:32 PM PDT by chapin2500 (rude people suck)
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To: tractorman
Will she say it’s OK to marry my Cocker Spaniel?

Of course it's okay. God put animals on this earth to be loved./sarcasm

10 posted on 06/19/2006 1:19:45 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: SmithL

In the absence of a universally accepted proof, all beliefs are relative.


11 posted on 06/19/2006 1:19:47 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: SmithL
Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters

PERFECT!!

12 posted on 06/19/2006 1:20:06 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The pen is mightier than the................pigs.)
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To: marshmallow
"She's right. Homosexuality (i.e. attraction to members of the same sex) is not a sin."

I suppose that is correct. I am attracted to sin. I may not ACT on that impulse and I SHOULD pray to have that inward desire removed.I may want to eat of the tree of Good and Evil but as long as I eschew I did not sin.

13 posted on 06/19/2006 1:23:05 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: SmithL
"The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said.

So much for the "inspired word of God"

14 posted on 06/19/2006 1:24:16 PM PDT by chapin2500 (rude people suck)
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To: SmithL

(Interviewed on CNN, Jefferts Schori was asked if it was a sin to be homosexual.

"I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts.)


1) Apparantly one of those gifts is for certain guys to place their genitals into the rectal orifice of another guy.

2) If she doesn't think it's a sin I suggest she re-read her Bible. Or is that dusty old book just mean't as "guidelines" to ECUSA?


15 posted on 06/19/2006 1:25:15 PM PDT by A Troop 1-14 Cav ("We love immigrants in Utah. We don't make distinctions between legal and illegal." Chris Cannon)
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To: wolfcreek
If she didn't have a cow before, she's not going to have one now. She's like all the other brain dead Christians sitting in the pews of these apostate churches.

Again, these are the churches belonging to the NCC:

• African Methodist Episcopal Church

• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church

• Alliance of Baptists

• American Baptist Churches in the USA

• The Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America

• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America

• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)

• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church

• Church of the Brethren

• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America

• The Episcopal Church

• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

• Friends United Meeting

• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America

• Hungarian Reformed Church in America

• International Council of Community Churches

• Korean Presbyterian Church in America

• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church

• Mar Thoma Church

• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province

• National Baptist Convention of America

• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.

• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America

• Orthodox Church in America

• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA

• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends • Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)

• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.

• Reformed Church in America

• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada

• The Swedenborgian Church

• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch

• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America

• United Church of Christ

• The United Methodist Church

I wonder if she thinks there's such a thing as adultery.

16 posted on 06/19/2006 1:26:16 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: SmithL
How embarassing for Episcopalians.

There is one such church in our neighborhood, the building and grounds are rather large, Sunday services have 10 -15 cars in the parking lot.

17 posted on 06/19/2006 1:28:39 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: SmithL

“The sin of the century is the loss of the sense of sin.” – Pope Pius XII, Radio Message to the United States National Catechetical Congress held in Boston (October 26, 1946)


18 posted on 06/19/2006 1:29:44 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: tractorman

The Labradors and I are waiting for our day in family court so the adoption will be legal!

We want equal rights too! /sarc


19 posted on 06/19/2006 1:31:31 PM PDT by Global2010 (Life takes allot of Prayer and Grit)
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To: SmithL
Email the Bishop:

Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori
KJefferts@aol.com

Episcopal Diocese of Nevada
6135 Harrison Drive, Suite 1
Las Vegas, Nevada 89120-4076 USA
Telephone: 702-737-9190
Fax: 702-737-6488
20 posted on 06/19/2006 1:32:38 PM PDT by dcnd9
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To: marshmallow
She's right. Homosexuality (i.e. attraction to members of the same sex) is not a sin.

I could be wrong (it happens on rare occasions!!), but if I recall correctly, if you have sinned in your heart, it is counted against you as if you had done the sin in actuality. Jesus looks at what is in our hearts, and judges us accordingly.

I am sure that if I have gotten this piece of theology incorrect, someone will gently and diplomatically correct me!!

: )
21 posted on 06/19/2006 1:36:58 PM PDT by Zetman (I believe the children are the next generation.)
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To: Osage Orange; DarthVader
THE BANNER OF THE SPANISH INQUISITION.


22 posted on 06/19/2006 1:38:22 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Global2010; BipolarBob

I wonder how long until she throws out the other nine commandments.


23 posted on 06/19/2006 1:39:01 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: Zetman

Yes, you're right, but being tempted is not a sin. It is acting on that temptation that is the sin, whether that act is in thought or deed.


24 posted on 06/19/2006 1:41:31 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: Zetman

If temptation were sin, God would be a being steeped in contradiction and inconsistency and we'd have no hope because we'd not be able to place our faith in such a capricious being. We came to this life in part to prove our ability and willingess to withstand tempation. It is part of the necessary testing of this life. Therefore God would be cruel indeed to make it a sin just because of merely being tempted. Sin is an act, not merely an impulse to an act. If tempation is sin, then where's the incentive to avoid the sin itself if we're not worse off by giving in as we are just by having been subject to the temptation? If temptation is a sin, then Satan has already won the war for souls!

Yes Christ taught if a man look upon a woman to lust after her, then he has already committed adultery in his heart. That's because one had not resisted the temptation to entertain inappropriate thoughts, but has given them full reign. One could see an attractive woman and choose to re-direct their thoughts. If they are lusting, they have not worked to redirect their thoughts but have taken them through a process to the point of imagining sexuality with that person. It is not that he is condemning all temptation as sin. Just my humble opinion.


25 posted on 06/19/2006 1:47:20 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House)
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To: marshmallow

Most adults are probably guilty of sodomy. Not just homosexuals.


26 posted on 06/19/2006 1:50:38 PM PDT by Haruka3
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To: Zetman
Yes, you're correct about "sinning in your heart." Jesus spoke of this in the Sermon on the Mount, as related in Ch.6 of Matthew's Gospel.

However, attraction to members of the same sex is more a condition. Think of homosexuality as a disorder. A disordered sexuality, for "God made them man and woman". Those afflicted with this disorder are required to live chaste lives, as is anyone outside the married state, for that matter.

It's when we act against chastity, either in thought or deed that we sin. This applies to both homo and heterosexuals.

27 posted on 06/19/2006 1:53:54 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
She's right. Homosexuality (i.e. attraction to members of the same sex) is not a sin.

The sin is sodomy.

Yes -I watched the interview and she parsed her words well; however, she objectively did not take the opportunity to add in the portion you necessarily knew was required for completeness e.g. "the sin is sodomy" nor did she even hint at stating the objective reality that homosexuality is a disordered condition...

28 posted on 06/19/2006 1:54:44 PM PDT by DBeers ()
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

You left out the grand cayuna of the NCC - the Presbyterian Church USA


29 posted on 06/19/2006 1:55:10 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids (We'll stay out of your bedrooms, if you stay out of our children's classrooms.)
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To: DBeers; All
What they SHOULD have asked her (but never would because it was CNN asking the questions) was if she believed that if the attraction to one's own sex is not a sin, was it a sin to be attracted to animals or other non-human beings? It's in Lev, right after it says that it's an abomination for a man to lay with another man as a woman.

Any chance she would answer that?


I am NOT holding my breath.
30 posted on 06/19/2006 2:27:49 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Mr. Jazzy, VPD of LCpl Smoothguy242, USMC, now back HOME! Ooorah!!!)
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To: SmithL
"I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us"

Now this woman wants me to believe that being queer is a 'gift'??? Gays, lesbians, bi's and trannys are now to be considered a 'blessing'???

Beam me up Scotty.

31 posted on 06/19/2006 2:28:40 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Haruka3



Some maybe....not Most! Onky in the gay dreams.


32 posted on 06/19/2006 2:32:23 PM PDT by dcnd9
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To: SmithL

"...and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters"

Well, there you have it. Squids and Oysters! I wonder what the squids are and what the oysters are? On second thought, I don't want to know.........


33 posted on 06/19/2006 2:43:13 PM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: Haruka3

link please


34 posted on 06/19/2006 2:48:29 PM PDT by chapin2500 (rude people suck)
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To: SmithL

She may be married and have a kid, but why is it I think this broad has been on the carpet a few times.


35 posted on 06/19/2006 2:50:16 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Osage Orange
Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic

Ack!

Bishop Jefferts Schori: My parents brought me into the Episcopal Church in early 1963, in conjunction with their own move out of the Roman Catholic tradition. This was before Vatican II had had any impact on parish life, and as a fifth-grader, my awareness of the difference was of language (from Latin to English) and of community and style (large and faceless to small and intimate).

Okay, I'm gonna guess her parents stopped "raising" her as a Catholic long before they left.

36 posted on 06/19/2006 2:57:00 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: SmithL

Sadly, it won't shock me, if sometime in the future these people embrace pedophiles and claim "They were just given a different 'gift'"


37 posted on 06/19/2006 2:58:23 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (Sure the left loves the military, whenever they can be used as a political football)
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To: Rome2000
Just be thankful that she left the RCC to help corrupt the ECUSA.
38 posted on 06/19/2006 3:11:51 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: SmithL
Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori

Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said.

The daughter of satan shall rule with benevolence over her flock which eventually will consist only of perverts.

This bitch of a bishop must know exactly what she's doing as well as those evil ones who appointed her.

The Episcopal Church in America is toast!

39 posted on 06/19/2006 3:16:05 PM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: SmithL
...graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters...

Missed that.

Her "husband-figure" probably serves as a front whilst she delves into her crustatian delicacies.

40 posted on 06/19/2006 3:18:28 PM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: SmithL

GOD must owe Sodom and Gomorrah a big apology


41 posted on 06/19/2006 3:30:37 PM PDT by Paine's Ghost (Luv struck for Ann)
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To: SmithL
Newly elected leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said on Monday she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender.

What a twisted logic this woman is using. Why would God create someone homosexual to condemn them for an act He deems an abomination? That would make God a pretty cruel entity.

I'm pretty tired of hearing liberal Christians spout the mantra "I believe that homosexuality is not a sin. I believe that God created them that way.. blah.. blah.. blah.. Who cares what you believe. It's what God says that is most important.

Speaking of which, looks like she's also ignoring Scripture that says she isn't to be a Bishop.

42 posted on 06/19/2006 3:37:31 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: SmithL

Asked how she reconciled her position on homosexuality with specific passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions.

"The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said.

--


Boy, I could post a bunch of scripture but it was written in a "a very different historical context by people asking different questions" so I won't belabor ya with it.

There is nothing new under the sun.. yada yada..

Methinks she is in for a big surprise when the fat lady sings.. jmho


43 posted on 06/19/2006 3:40:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Using the same reasoning that Schiori is using bestiality is not a sin because the primitive authors of the Bible were living in another less enlightened age. (sarcasm)


44 posted on 06/19/2006 4:09:58 PM PDT by pravknight (Liberalism under the guise of magisterial teaching is still heresy)
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To: Paine's Ghost

Leonard Ravenhill?


45 posted on 06/19/2006 4:15:33 PM PDT by fwdude (If at first you don't succeed .......... form a committee and hire a consultant.)
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To: Rome2000

Ooooooo...now that takes me back


46 posted on 06/19/2006 5:11:07 PM PDT by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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To: Haruka3

And, heterosexual sodomy is no less an abomination than homosexual sodomy - so if you're guilty of sexually abusing a woman in such a fashion...

KNOCK IT THE HELL OFF!!


47 posted on 06/19/2006 5:15:15 PM PDT by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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To: Zetman

No, you're on the money...He describes this in the Gospels when speaking of adultery...same concept for the homosexual lust as a heterosexual lust...


48 posted on 06/19/2006 5:27:54 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: SmithL

Amen to your statement...My jaw dropped when I read the article...What can one say to this? So sad to see the souls of many being pulled in the absolute wrong direction...


49 posted on 06/19/2006 5:31:06 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: Paine's Ghost
GOD must owe Sodom and Gomorrah a big apology

You beat me to it!
50 posted on 06/19/2006 5:34:50 PM PDT by VOA
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