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Pope Against Pop Music In Mass
Adnkronos International ^ | 06262006 | AKI

Posted on 06/26/2006 11:48:53 AM PDT by FJ290

Vatican City, 26 June (AKI) - Pope Benedict XVI has called for traditional sacred music to be played during mass, condemning the ongoing custom of contemporary music at religious celebrations. "Updating sacred music is possible, but this cannot happen unless it follows the tradition of Gregorian chants or sacred polyphony," the pontiff said on Sunday on the sidelines of a concert in the Sistine Chapel. A skilled pianist with a predilection for Bach and Mozart, Benedict XVI spoke against a custom reportedly appreciated by his more informal predecessor John Paul II, who worked very hard throughout his papacy to make the Church more appealing to the younger generations.

In an interview published in Turin-daily La Stampa on Monday, the former Archbishop of Ravenna, veteran Cardinal Ersilio Tonini also condemned the practice saying that "Benedict XVI is right, mass is a meeting with God and to meet God sacred music is better than the turmoil of electric guitars, hand clapping and the husstle and bustle of disorderly sounds."

Tonini said that 40 years ago after the Second Vatican Council "making mass more popular and inviting could be understood." However, the cardinal added, "we exaggerated and now I believe it is legitimate to consider as over this season of breaks with tradition."


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To: Xenalyte

When our church jettisoned its hymnals, we bought a copy, so we could at least keep the older hymns alive in our own family.


141 posted on 06/26/2006 12:54:22 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: Kenny Bunkport

I have a few old hymnals, Methodist, Baptist, Episcopal - I like to find a hymn in all of them and play the different versions.


142 posted on 06/26/2006 12:55:05 PM PDT by Xenalyte (The wages of sin are death, but after taxes are taken out it's just sort of a tired feeling.)
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To: FJ290

Yum. < ack >


143 posted on 06/26/2006 12:55:34 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
Have you seen this site?

The Cyber Hymnal

144 posted on 06/26/2006 12:55:51 PM PDT by Alkhin (http://awanderingconfluence.com/blog ~ Tributaries)
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To: TankerKC

Small world, spent a few months at Maxwell AFB for SOS back in '88. We go to St. Patrick's in California. Close to March AFB.


145 posted on 06/26/2006 12:56:10 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: Xenalyte
I really don't like the banal, repeptitive lyrics flashed on the wall by an overhead projector. Maybe it's OK for Sunday School.

-ccm

146 posted on 06/26/2006 12:57:14 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: ccmay
The Altamont of its day.

Good analogy...But were the Hell's Angels providing security for Mozart that day too?

147 posted on 06/26/2006 12:58:52 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: A CA Guy
I wish he would feel the same way about a pop-Cardinal in Los Angeles.

I'll bet the reaction at the chancery office in Los Angeles to the pope's statement was a collective yawn.

Look to see an even greater profusion of pop music and dancing at next year's Religious Ed conference.
148 posted on 06/26/2006 12:59:32 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: YankeeGirl

Catholic, as in religion, is capitalized...Catholic.


149 posted on 06/26/2006 12:59:50 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: ccmay

That too! Does your church's screen at least show music? My sister's didn't. For all I knew, we could be singing to the tune of "99 Red Balloons."


150 posted on 06/26/2006 1:00:18 PM PDT by Xenalyte (The wages of sin are death, but after taxes are taken out it's just sort of a tired feeling.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
All we can do now is calm down, have some lunch and try to enjoy the rest of the day. :~)

And bring a covered dish to the potluck, you betcha.

Geez, I've been listening too much to that old fool Garrison Keillor.

-ccm

151 posted on 06/26/2006 1:00:23 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I went to a Lutheran wedding once and it was very much like a Catholic Mass.


152 posted on 06/26/2006 1:01:06 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Aquinasfan
So, say my brother thinks that I'm a heretic, which church should we go to in order to settle our dispute? The one with thousands of contradictory doctrines?

For the most part minor denominational theological differences. If they follow the precepts I outlined above about what a church is, then your church is no different than mine. We may disagree about denominational issues but that's not going to stop either one of us from getting into Heaven

When it comes to someone who has no regard for Church authority, it's a shake the dust off your sandals thing.

I have 100 percent regard for a church's authority. The current Pope is sort of like Billy Graham, or Charles Spurgeon, or John Wesley, or Charles Stanley, or fill in the blank of your favorite pastor. Just another minister of God. He tells the church he leads what to do or how to act, others tell the churches they lead what to do or how to act.

153 posted on 06/26/2006 1:01:42 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: ccmay

No complaints here :~)


154 posted on 06/26/2006 1:02:19 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Xenalyte

Interestingly, we've heard of a "revival" of sorts of the older hymns. One church we know of has separate worship gatherings at the same time on Sunday, with the main auditorium engaged in "contemporary" worship, and the fellowship hall engaged in traditional worship with hymns, and then the sermon is piped into the fellowship hall via TV monitors. What the church is finding is that many younger members are gravitating to the traditional worship. They may have to swap locations soon -- the traditional service in the main auditorium.


155 posted on 06/26/2006 1:02:55 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: FJ290
It should have been obvious on its face, but if electric guitars and a rhythm section are the "selling points" which induce people to come to Church, then the Mass has already been reduced to an adrenaline rush. Yet another. And like any adrenaline rush, it eventually fades after a few repetitions, and then needs to be replaced by the latest "fun thing".

Traditional Catholic liturgy is God-centered. Deriving personal enjoyment is not part of the equation. The Mass is not about you.

Once the "feel good" factor enters in, and the liturgy is stripped of the sacred, the battle is already lost. As history has shown. Every dipsy, frivolous gimmick has been tried with the liturgy. Still, they won't come. On the contrary. They've left in droves.

156 posted on 06/26/2006 1:02:56 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
There's another guy that drives me crazy with some of his music. Some isn't too bad, but a lot of it seems too theatrical.

Christopher Walker

I think this is the one (of many Christopher Walkers):

http://www.viewpoint24.com/m-walker.html

157 posted on 06/26/2006 1:03:18 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
I guess that means liturgical dance is out as well...

"Well I can mash potato (I can mash potato)
Well I can do the twist (and I can do the twist)
Woh tell me baby (tell me baby)
Do you like it like this (do you like it like this)..."

158 posted on 06/26/2006 1:04:44 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Xenalyte

At my workplace we have a First Christian (Disciples of Christ) church across the street from us. Unfortunately, I think that denomination is a little bit on the lib side, but they do play traditional hymns over their steeple's sound system where I can hear it in my office. It's quite nice.


159 posted on 06/26/2006 1:06:05 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Xenalyte

I remember that I was nearly distraught when my church (Southern Baptist) quit using the hymnal and less traditional music. There is some contemporary I like, but some music is just timeless.


160 posted on 06/26/2006 1:07:12 PM PDT by JamesP81
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