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To: NYer

I have serious doubts about Medjugorje. Every single past apparition with a message, Our Lady appeared a limited number of times over a set period of time. This breaks smashes that general rule.


3 posted on 07/07/2006 7:00:21 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you wish to go to extremes, let it be in... patience, humility, & charity." -St. Philip Neri)
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To: Pyro7480

It does seem rather alot, does it not? Maybe at first but then came the commercialization...


4 posted on 07/07/2006 7:06:44 AM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Pyro7480

You're right. There is a lot that is very fishy about the Medjugorje "apparitions". Not only the unbelievable loquacity of the supposed apparition, but a lot of what she says. Over the years the "apparition" has said some things that are hardly compatible with orthodox Catholicism, including some very latitudinarian things. Moreover the apparition has encouraged direct disobedience to bishops --- and not to bishops who were commanding anything wrong, but to reasonable directives. Indeed, the "visionaries" have repeatedly defied their own bishops. No Marian apparition that has ever been recognized by the Church has ever involved such defiance of Church authority. There were articles by a well-known conservative Catholic writer back in the 1980s (I cannot remember who it was at the moment) exposing some of the strange statements of the supposed apparition. One of the things I remember that is really goofy is that she gave a statistical breakdown of how many people went to Heaven directly, to Purgatory, and to Hell.
Jesus wouldn't tell the Apostles when they asked him how many would be saved, but the Medjugorje apparition is happy to tell us to three significant figures.

No doubt God has showered grace upon many who have believed in the apparitions there. Scripture tells us that God can make good to come out of evil. It is significant that the popes have all been very cool to the Medjugorje phenomenon.
And these are popes who have a strong Marian piety.


7 posted on 07/07/2006 7:23:15 AM PDT by smpb (smb)
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Serious doubts? As far as the Church is concerned it's a settled issue. Unfortunately, the Vatican is not helping the local bishop put a rest to this, because they consider it to end with the local bishop. The only thing from this point on that would get the Vatican involved is a review AFTER the apparitions ended. Since these apparitions appear to be going on in perpetuity...
17 posted on 07/07/2006 10:27:54 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Pyro7480

"I have serious doubts about Medjugorje..."

Me, too. One about the Lord, He and His messengers have an economy of speech. Words are precise.


19 posted on 07/07/2006 10:57:50 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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