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Despite excommunication threat, McCandless woman plans to become a priest
Post Gazette ^ | July 12, 2006 | Marylynne Pitz

Posted on 07/12/2006 8:34:05 AM PDT by NYer

In the three weeks since Joan Clark Houk's plans to be ordained as a Catholic priest became public, the McCandless woman's media baptism has involved six interviews and one letter writer's claim that she was well educated in witchcraft.


Joan Clark Houk, shown near the parish offices of St. Paul Cathedral in Oakland, is part of an international movement to ordain Catholic women. She plans to be ordained July 31.

But Mrs. Houk, who celebrated her 66th birthday last weekend, remains resolute. On July 31, the cradle Catholic will join 11 other female candidates in an ordination ceremony aboard a rented boat here -- the first ceremony of its kind in the United States. Eight are seeking to become women priests and the other four, deacons.

The event, a public challenge to the Roman Catholic church's teaching that only baptized men can be priests, will disturb traditional believers.

Last month, the Rev. Ron Lengwin, a spokesman for the Diocese of Pittsburgh, said the women are walking away from the church. If Mrs. Houk holds herself out as a priest after the ceremony, she risks excommunication.

Mrs. Houk believes the best way to spur the church to ordain women is to violate what she believes is an unjust law.

"The church has to take a stand for women ... that they are the image of God and are to be respected and treated on an equal, human level. This is really why I have to do what I am doing," she said in a recent interview.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: apostates; catholic; female; ordination; pa; priesthood; waronjesus
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1 posted on 07/12/2006 8:34:06 AM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
Since the 1980s, tens of thousands of American Catholics have consistently told the National Opinion Research Center in Chicago that they favor ordaining women as well as married priests.

The Catholic Church is not driven by polls or opinion surveys. It is run by the Successor to St. Peter.

2 posted on 07/12/2006 8:35:37 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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Despite excommunication threat, McCandless woman self-obsessed feminazi wacko RINO plans to become a priest remains a heretic

There, I fixed the title

3 posted on 07/12/2006 8:37:24 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: NYer

>>Since the 1980s, tens of thousands of American Catholics have consistently told the National Opinion Research Center in Chicago that they favor ordaining women as well as married priests.<<

And this is why there is Future Church.
If one would like to remain Catholic, one must live by the rules.


4 posted on 07/12/2006 8:38:06 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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"We do not promise obedience to our bishop. We promise obedience to Jesus and the Gospel," Mrs. Houk said.

why not join a Protestant church that ordains women then?

5 posted on 07/12/2006 8:42:05 AM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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To: NYer
But Mrs. Houk, who celebrated her 66th birthday last weekend.....

Yep....she fits the profile perfectly.

In 1966 she would have been 26. One of the young '60s radicals who's grown older but not wiser. Still trying to impose her '60s agenda on the Church as the sands of time gradually run out.

7 posted on 07/12/2006 8:49:00 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: devilsconcubine

It was not designed ot prevent assault by the priest. It was designed to protect the priest, and to make it impossible for anyone to claim sexual improprieties (whether mutually desired, imagined or assault by either party).

Anti-cahtolicism is humorous. The depths to which people will stoop....


8 posted on 07/12/2006 8:49:32 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (OEF vet says: I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: wagglebee
Despite excommunication threat, McCandless woman self-obsessed feminazi wacko RCINO hag plans to become a priest remains a heretic.

There.

I fixed your fix. ;o)

9 posted on 07/12/2006 8:49:50 AM PDT by kstewskis ("Aim small, miss small...." Benjamin Martin to Nathan and Samuel)
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To: NYer
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, right?

For her perspective, if she wants to dress up and play priestess, all well and good. Whatever. She can deal with the consequences now and in eternity.

I feel very sorry for the hundreds of people she will deceive through her clergy-play time.

10 posted on 07/12/2006 8:50:02 AM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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HELP!! A woman did the sermon at my Mass this Sunday. A SERMON, not talking about her work with the poor and asking for money, but a SERMON. This is the second one she's done when the pastor has been away, but I'm sure he knows and supports it. Is this OK in the Catholic Church? I need guidance on what to do.


11 posted on 07/12/2006 8:53:53 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: wagglebee

She's probably a lesbian. Why doesn't she join the Episcopal Church?


12 posted on 07/12/2006 8:55:04 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: kstewskis

Thanks, I messed up!


13 posted on 07/12/2006 8:55:08 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Suzy Quzy

She would probably be happier with wicca or something like that.


14 posted on 07/12/2006 8:56:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: NYer
The Catholic Church is not driven by polls or opinion surveys. It is run by the Successor to St. Peter.

*************

Apparently this woman believes she can do better than that. I'm not sure why she considers herself Catholic.

15 posted on 07/12/2006 8:57:00 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Point of order:

The Catholic Church is run by God. His designated, visible representative on Earth is the Successor to St. Peter.

But you already knew that.

16 posted on 07/12/2006 9:03:54 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
A SERMON, not talking about her work with the poor and asking for money, but a SERMON. This is the second one she's done when the pastor has been away, but I'm sure he knows and supports it. Is this OK in the Catholic Church? I need guidance on what to do.

It is not okay. I'd absolutely go to the priest. If he is complacent, then take the matter to the bishop. Document everything, including your priests (in)action.

Let's just hope that your bishop will listen.

17 posted on 07/12/2006 9:04:02 AM PDT by kstewskis ("Aim small, miss small...." Benjamin Martin to Nathan and Samuel)
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To: Suzy Quzy

What diocese do you live in? Sermons by women - or by any non-ordained and non-licensed person - are not permitted.


18 posted on 07/12/2006 9:05:58 AM PDT by livius
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"Mrs. Houk believes the best way to spur the church to ordain women is to violate what she believes is an unjust law."

This is why we have a magisterium. Individuals bring their own errant beliefs and emotions, agendas and foibles into the mix.

" "The church has to take a stand for women ... that they are the image of God and are to be respected and treated on an equal, human level..."

It has and it does and will in the future. I can imagine a hell on earth if the Church had not existed and elevated women.

Her problem is that she wants to be masculine. She wants that authority and cannot accept the feminine.


19 posted on 07/12/2006 9:07:00 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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oan Clark Houk, shown near the parish offices of St. Paul Cathedral in Oakland,

Lovely bit of spin by the writers at the Pest-Gazette. Sort of puts an illusory air of officialness about her ... she's "shown near the parish offices" as if to imply that she has something to do with said offices.

MSM are evil.

20 posted on 07/12/2006 9:07:53 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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