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Despite excommunication threat, McCandless woman plans to become a priest
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| July 12, 2006
| Marylynne Pitz
Posted on 07/12/2006 8:34:05 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Suzy Quzy
You need to bring this up to the pastor. If he gives you short-shrift, tell him you're going to contact the Bishop, and then start looking for a new parish.
Rule of thumb: where there's smoke, there's fire. If they're knowingly allowing a woman to give the sermon, you can rest assured there are other liturgical abuses taking place.
To: NYer; ArrogantBustard
"McCandless woman plans to become a priest"
Memo to stuck-in-the-60s-radical-bimbo: Honey, the episcopagan coven is two blocks down the street on your left. Suggest you waddle your size 20 caboose down there where they will welcome you. Your silly trash-talk ain't welcome here! Geeze, these types get my vinegar up! I wish they'd all just plain go away, far away.
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posted on
07/12/2006 9:26:47 AM PDT
by
Convert from ECUSA
(The Arab League jihad continues on like a fart in an elevator - FR American in Israel)
To: NYer
Joan Clark Houk, shown near the parish offices of St. Paul Cathedral in Oakland, is part of an international movement to ordain Catholic women. She plans to be ordained July 31.Unfortunately for her poor deluded self, her ordination as a Roman Catholic priest is a factual impossibility.
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posted on
07/12/2006 9:27:56 AM PDT
by
Petronski
(I just love that woman.)
To: NYer
I pray that God will mercifully open the eyes of these women before it's too late.
To: NYer
Mrs. Houk believes the best way to spur the church to ordain women is to violate what she believes is an unjust law. Uh, no. You'll never be a Catholic priest. You're just playing dress-up.
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posted on
07/12/2006 9:31:13 AM PDT
by
Carolina
To: Petronski
You make the most salient point.
What's lost in this shuffle is the fact that priests are called by the Church, not individual whimsy. Simple logic dictates that since the Church has reiterated over and over that it does not have the right to call women to be priests, then something else is calling her to this "vocation", and it ain't God.
To: Nihil Obstat
"why not join a Protestant church that ordains women then?"
She promised obedience to Jesus and the Gospel, so the ECUSA is out.
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posted on
07/12/2006 9:36:56 AM PDT
by
GAB-1955
(being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
To: Rutles4Ever
something else is calling her to this "vocation", and it ain't God.****************
Pride.
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posted on
07/12/2006 9:38:58 AM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: NYer
It's not going to do her any good. She can play dress-up and go through the motions till the cows come home, but it won't change the fact that she is not and can never be a priest.
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posted on
07/12/2006 9:42:25 AM PDT
by
redhead
(Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain...)
To: Rutles4Ever
At the ceremony, presiders will be Patricia Fresen, Gisela Forster and Ida Raming, who live in Germany and are bishops in RC Womenpriests. The three women believe they are part of the church's valid apostolic succession because Roman Catholic bishops in good standing ordained them secretly.
Uh, sure. Somehow, I don't think "secret ordinations" mean very much. Since when are ordinations kept secret from the Body of believers?
To: Nihil Obstat
""We do not promise obedience to our bishop. We promise obedience to Jesus and the Gospel," Mrs. Houk said."See, here it is in a nutshell. Saints and all good priests practice obedience; rebellious molls like this person will never be CATHOLIC priests, in spite of all the make-believe they whomp up.
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posted on
07/12/2006 9:45:27 AM PDT
by
redhead
(Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain...)
To: wagglebee
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posted on
07/12/2006 9:48:56 AM PDT
by
NYer
(Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
To: NYer
Hmmm, I have a scientific observation. It appears that over-the-hill, frizzy-haired hagbeasts are statistically more likely to make illigitimate efforts to become priests.
At least I've never seen a self-described fempriest who WASN'T a hagbag.
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posted on
07/12/2006 9:50:34 AM PDT
by
jboot
(Faith is not a work)
To: NYer
She doesn't have a problem with the Catholic Church, she has a problem with Jesus Christ.
And she doesn't risk excommunication, she will automatically excommunicate herself if she goes ahead with this.
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posted on
07/12/2006 9:58:17 AM PDT
by
BlessedBeGod
(Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
To: wagglebee
Despite excommunication threat, McCandless woman self-obsessed feminazi wacko RINO plans to become a priest remains a hereticROFLOL! I know it's not funny, but the truth, yet I still laughed when I saw your response.
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posted on
07/12/2006 10:13:47 AM PDT
by
FJ290
To: Suzy Quzy
HELP!! A woman did the sermon at my Mass this Sunday. A SERMON, not talking about her work with the poor and asking for money, but a SERMON. This is the second one she's done when the pastor has been away, but I'm sure he knows and supports it. Is this OK in the Catholic Church? I need guidance on what to do.Here's something with some teeth in it:
GIRM:
66. The Homily should ordinarily be given by the priest celebrant himself. He may entrust it to a concelebrating priest or occasionally, according to circumstances, to the deacon, but never to a lay person.[65] In particular cases and for a just cause, the homily may even be given by a Bishop or a priest who is present at the celebration but cannot concelebrate.
[Reference 65.] Cf. Codex Iuris Canonici, can. 767 ' 1; Pontifical Commission for the Authentic Interpretation of the Code of Canon Law, response to dubium regarding can. 767 ß 1: AAS 79 (1987), p. 1249; Interdicasterial Instruction on certain questions regarding the collaboration of the non-ordained faithful in the sacred ministry of priests, Ecclesiae de mysterio, 15 August 1997 , art. 3: AAS 89 (1997), p. 864.
Canon Law:
Canon 767 ß1 The most important form of preaching is the homily, which is part of the liturgy, and is reserved to a priest or deacon. In the course of the liturgical year, the mysteries of faith and the rules of Christian living are to be expounded in the homily from the sacred text.
Have you asked your priest if he is aware of it? If he is, then you might need to report this to your Bishop.
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posted on
07/12/2006 10:42:25 AM PDT
by
FJ290
To: jboot
" At least I've never seen a self-described fempriest who WASN'T a hagbag."
ROFL! Ain't it the truth! You should see some of the ones in my former community, the ECUSA! Whoooeeee, would scare he h*ll out of Satan himself! We're talking size 20 caboose and a face that would stop a coal barge!
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posted on
07/12/2006 11:11:16 AM PDT
by
Convert from ECUSA
(The Arab League jihad continues on like a fart in an elevator - FR American in Israel)
To: NYer
Here we go again. AGAIN THIS WOMAN IS NO LONGER CATHOLIC IN UNION WITH THE SEE OF ROME. JUST CAUSE MY CAT HAS KITTENS IN THE OVEN DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE CUPCAKES. CALM DOWN PETA THE OVEN IS OFF.
PS. Does anyone else want to swear themselves in as a Supreme Court Justice or President of The United State of America or Emperor of the Lone Islands? It's fun, it's easy and it will amaze your friends and the press.
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posted on
07/12/2006 11:12:53 AM PDT
by
lastchance
(Hug your babies.)
To: Suzy Quzy
No it is not ok. Contactthe Bishop and let him know what has been going on.
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posted on
07/12/2006 11:15:04 AM PDT
by
lastchance
(Hug your babies.)
To: jboot
I have long hypothesized that the best practical (as opposed to theological) reason for not ordaining women was that the sort of wymyn who present themselves for ordination are manifestly unfit.
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posted on
07/12/2006 11:20:59 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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