***Most of the evangelicals that bother to post on the religion forum are strongly bible based and willing to defend earnestly for the faith.***
You are the ones who care enough to learn and defend the faith. You are the exceptions, not the rule.
***There is a presbyterian minister who occasionally posts on this board who doesn't appear to believe a single verse in the bible. I cannot recall you or any of the GRPL's ever bothering to challenge him even once.***
I don't know exactly who you are talking about, but if I have challenged mainstream Presbyterians on this very board, as have other GRPL. Do a search for Presbyterian. Usually it will led to threads on apostasy. Look if you see any familiar screen names and then we'll talk.
***May I say that from what I've seen "Modern" Presbyterianism is not evangelical and is pure heresy.***
In the case of the PC(USA) you are right. You are bearing false witness if you say the PCA is not evangelical or spreading heresy. A lack of commitment to the evangelical principals drove us out of the PC(USA).
**So clean your own house Gamie.***
See my previous comment.
*** Don't blame the Evangelicals for the problems in the American Churches. Most of them still believe in the Bible.***
And what exactly do they believe? That Scripture is some sort of guidebook to happy living. I can count off 6 people in my current church who think that Scripture is all about them and is nothing more than a guide book. Two are employed by "evangelical" organizations. They know individual verses quite well. But they can't tie together one common theme anywhere.
***Most of them still believe in the Bible.***
But when confronted with a problem, they run to the current best seller, ie Joel Osteen.
FWIW, there is an issue peculating in the PCA. I am looking for a suitable article so I can post once i get my own mind around it.
Hey, when's the last time you came out and cried foul on just one thing that the Evangelical church in general is doing that is wrong?
Or are evangelical authors and pastors infallible?
Hey, when's the last time you came out and cried foul on just one thing that the Evangelical church in general is doing that is wrong? Or are evangelical authors and pastors infallible?There was a thread a few weeks back about Rick Warren signing off on some stupid political thing and at that time I realized that Rick Warren had indeed driven off the cliff and I vowed not to defend him anymore.
In regard to some of the teachings at Saddleback, there are several heresies creeping into that church which have caused a lot of concern, particularly the idea of "contemplative prayer" and "emergent spirituality".
FWIW, Calvary Chapel has officially distanced itself from any "Purpose Driven" programs or materials. On the issue of "Contemplative prayer", this has caused a rift in the Chuck Smith family, with Chuck Smith Sr. actually removing any affiliation which his son's church, which is no longer in fellowship with the Calvary Chapel movement. Chuck Smith Jr. has essentially gone off the deep end and has started genuflecting (literally) after prayers and putting up Icons and candles in his church.