In the "Last Thread", I didn't even get a chance to respond further before the Thread got Pulled on the basis of some Nazi-Godwin's Law name-calling for which I never offered my support on the first place (as I said in the Article prefacing this thread, I don't think that Dispys are Nazis -- I think it is absurd even to suggest such a thing. What I am SAYING (and what I have been trying to say), is that it is Biblically-Unlawful according to the New Testament for Dispys to Racially-Divide the People of God.
If you want to have a proper debate without the personal attacks, without the crowing, without the poisoning of the well, and without the vulgarity you demonstrated in the last thread, I'd be glad to. But your entry point into this one suggests otherwise, and I'd candidly rather debate TC--who, despite not being of your caliber, is far more civil than you've been of late--or HarleyD, who is consistantly the most civil Calvinist on this forum, as well as being incredibly articulate and challenging.
My "Entry Point" onto this thread was simply posting the Article... I did not accuse you of making "Ad Hominem" Arguments or not knowing how to debate. All that I did in response was point out that you had egregiously mis-defined one of the Classical Fallacies, for Debate purposes. Admittedly, my response to you was intentionally caustic; you attempted to apply the Rhetoric of Debate against me without proper command of the Logic. I dislike that approach, and so I responded with guns blazing -- and for that I apologize.
For myself, I have absolutely no objection whatsoever to a completely impartial and impersonal analysis of the contentions which I have raised in the above Article -- IF certain statements would Racially-Divide the Body of Christ if spoken by Christian Identity preachers, then how much the more do they Racially-Divide the Body of Christ if spoken by Dispensationalists? As I have said, having left the Terms of the Equation the Same, changing only the "Ethnic Group" Variables in question, I believe that my Analogic Reasoning is without Flaw.
You can start by publicly apologizing for calling the Jews "God-hating" in the previous thread, and swearing to abandon such rhetoric in all future discussions--the fact that an ad hominem is not said to your opponent directly does not make it any less a personal attack. If you're not Christian enough to repent of an obvious slander, then I have no interest in debating with you. Period. Have a nice day.
You're not Jewish, Bugg.
So how is it "ad hominem" against you at all if I accuse Christ-Rejecting Jews of Hating God?
The Greek (not Hebrew) New Testament, which was written by God our Father in Greek (not Hebrew), teaches us in Greek (not Hebrew) "But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in Their Law, They Hated Me without a Cause." (John 15:25)
Jesus IS God.
If there is one thing I know about you, Buggman -- besides the fact that we both know what "standard 40-Point Disad Limit in GURPS" means -- it is this: you will always, honestly, and without reservation submit yourself and your own beliefs to the Bar of Scripture.
As will I.
If I have "committed an obvious slander", against you, against the Jews, whatever... then I will Repent. BUT FIRST -- if you demand a Public Apology on the basis of "calling the Jews 'God-hating' in the previous thread, and swearing to abandon such rhetoric in all future discussions"...
Then Prove it to me. From Scripture. The one Standard, Calvinist or Arminian or whatever, that we both terrifyingly Respect.
Show me clearly, from Scripture, that Christ-Rejecting Jews do not HATE GOD.
Show me that, and you shall have whatever Apology you seek from me.
But Scripture first.
Best, OP
Is this not true of all people who are not Christians? Why single out one group for the label?