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To: reductio
Oh, so it is perfectly fine, if not desirable, for there to be a state and/or national religion, is it? You thoroughly approve of the Puritans refusing to share their colony with people who, though fellow Protestants, weren't Congregationalists?

You live in a PLURALISTIC town, I bet. Your state and the nation you live in, is NOT a Catholic theocracy. When are you going to move to a country that is solely Catholic?

You are on a website that is NOT for only Catholics. Are you here just to proselytize to the "heathen"/"heretics" and/or pound your chest and tell the rest of us that we are all going to burn in hell, then? If that is the case, then I suggest that none of that is the purpose for FR.

Everyone who is NOT a Catholic is a "LIBERAL"?

Liberals to extreme lefties can easily be found, who profess to be Catholics. Never heard of the Kennedy family, have you? How about John Kerry, Bernadette Dorn, Moynahan, the Berrigan brothers, and on and on and on? And before you tell me that they aren't REALLY Catholics, that tactic isn't going to work.

Frankly, I don't give a damn what the Catholic church says. I have done my very best to not take on that church and stated all of the absolutely vile, hypocritical, and corrupt things that it has done and said for 2 millennia; however, if you want, I can post, endlessly, about it; though I would much prefer to not waste my time and energy doing so.

Oh gee.....Christ was crucified because people wouldn't listen to HIS words? Ummmmmmmmmm....you mean that HE wasn't crucified, to redeem our sins?

Since you clearly state that Catholics owe all of their allegiance to the church, first, then NO Catholic should EVER hold elected office, in this nation, nor and post of authority in anything. Thanks for completely blowing out of the water, everything other Catholics, have fought, tirelessly, to make the rest of us not believe.

Truth? You would know the TRUTH, if it bit you on the nose and nothing you did, could ever dislodge it!

Freemasonry is NOT a religious organization; it is a FRATERNAL and CHARITABLE organization. It is an organization which has ALWAYS tolerated the social interaction and community of ALL men of good character, who believe in GOD. So, of course you would see it as menacing, frightening, and something to avoid at all cost.

Your post clearly lays out why, for many centuries, Catholics weren't trusted, in America.

336 posted on 09/15/2006 6:42:47 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
"When are you going to move to a country that is solely Catholic?"

I'm not going to. And ya'll have to let me stay on, or else you contradict your own creed.

Everyone who is NOT a Catholic is a "LIBERAL"?

The truly liberal ideas are the ones which are at odds with the teachings of the Catholic Church.

338 posted on 09/15/2006 7:42:27 PM PDT by reductio
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To: nopardons
"Oh gee.....Christ was crucified because people wouldn't listen to HIS words?"

Well, yeah. There was this middle-of-the-night kind of illicit trial where they falsely accused Christ, whipped up the crowds against Him, rejected and mocked His teachings, in their duplicity made him out to be a threat to the stability of a state which they themselves hated, a little garment-rending ensued here and there, they lied, and they off and crucified Him. So yeah.

Ummmmmmmmmm....you mean that HE wasn't crucified, to redeem our sins?

No, I didn't mean that. He was crucified for our sins. I don't see how stating the first thing precludes the belief in the second thing.

Since you clearly state that Catholics owe all of their allegiance to the church, first, then NO Catholic should EVER hold elected office, in this nation, nor and post of authority in anything. Thanks for completely blowing out of the water, everything other Catholics, have fought, tirelessly, to make the rest of us not believe.

You're welcome, because they were wrong to have misled you. After all, were they ever helping you to come closer to the Church by not telling the truth?

Truth? You would know the TRUTH, if it bit you on the nose and nothing you did, could ever dislodge it!

You meant "wouldn't". But what is written above is the truth.

"Freemasonry is NOT a religious organization; it is a FRATERNAL and CHARITABLE organization. It is an organization which has ALWAYS tolerated the social interaction and community of ALL men of good character, who believe in GOD. So, of course you would see it as menacing, frightening, and something to avoid at all cost."

I know exactly what they really are, and what their intentions are, and by what principles they operate.

340 posted on 09/15/2006 8:12:42 PM PDT by reductio
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