[Taliesan]

JOyce Meyer: Who would want to get in on something where you're miserable, poor, broke and ugly and you just have to muddle through until you get to heaven?

Denominational structures have their faults, but the upside to them is that you can require people to have at least read the New Testament once before they start "preaching".

[Cecily]

The Lord isn't "giving" you nice things, Joyce. You and your family and the other money preachers have nice things because you are all using the Gospel to fleece and make merchandise of His flock.

What frauds these people are.