Posted on 10/13/2006 5:48:15 AM PDT by Maeve
"I would ask you, are the bishops the successors of the apostles or not"
You answered a question with a question, I think because you do not want to say, "Yes, there is a point beyond which a bishop loses his entitlement to obedience."
I have no idea. That was *my* question!
Since my Priest is one of the Anglican Priest Converts, I have attended more than a few of the Anglican Use Conferences, and become acquainted with quite a few of the former Anglican Priests who crossed the Tiber to become RC Priests.
I haven't met any who smelled of lavender or walked with a swish.
Please never accuse my Priest of being a member of the Lavender Mafia when he is out clearing cedar, and wielding a chain saw. You might get more than a gentle rebuke.
1. Brooklyn is a separate diocese covering Brooklyn and Queens. Its recent former bishops are Francis Mugavero and Thomas Daily (who arrived from Law's Boston). The present bishop is a big improvent. I forget the name but I believe that he is a youngish Italian bishop previously serving Camden, NJ.
2. As bishop of Bridgeport, Egan allowed Tridentine Masses at Bridgeport and at Stamford.
Egan is no star and he has a terrible attitude about criticism and about press coverage of the scandals and what not. He is not a very wise bishop or a very good pastor. Fortunately he will soon be 75.
Your posts are always so informative.
It's my home diocese.
It is, as I said, a suffragan see of the New York Archdiocese.
As bishop of Bridgeport, Egan allowed Tridentine Masses at Bridgeport and at Stamford.
Correct. As I said, he is indifferent to Latin mass communities as long as they contribute to the support of the diocese. He neither encourages nor discourages their formation, which makes him better on that point than 90% of the US episcopate.
Also, isn't Fr. Rutler an Anglican convert to Rome????
John Henry Cardinal Newman was more than OK in his time as well.
There is also a former Anglican bishop of London who converted to Catholicism when they started ordaining women, was ordained a Catholic priest and brought many English Anglican priests with him to Rome.
Please fill the other gaps in my knowledge here. Who is the present (diocesan ordinary) bishop of Brooklyn? When was he appointed? Where had he served previously? Is the term "suffragen" or suffragan?"
Correct. The word is "suffragan" from "suffrage" meaning having a voice or a vote. The term comes from the metropolitan bihop's council, which was made up of neighboring bishops of non-metropolitan rank - the local synod if you will.
The present ordianry of Brooklyn is Nicholas DiMarzio. He was installed in October of '03. He's 62 and he started off as a priest in Newark in '70 and was an auxiliary bishop in Camden, NJ for 4 years before he came to Brooklyn.
Well, every Ordinary I've ever lived under made your list. Ugh.
Fr. Ryland is a living saint -- in my opinion.
The Rt. Rev. Msgr. Graham Leonard used to be the Anglican Bishop of London. He is a most remarkable man. I was so glad Pope John Paul II bestowed the title "Rt Rev Msgr." on Fr. Leonard. It was a generous (and a very right) thing to do.
"Let's not forget that Egan eliminated/banned/whatever exorcists from operating in the NY Archdiocese."
Maybe the good bishop of Nebraska will take his place. I'm sure he would reactivate the exorcists. NY needs him.
Since the Cardinal has not been accused of heresy, the issue is academic. If you have proof of heresy, then come back and ask me. Many bishops have been heretics in the history of the Church. But it is Catholic doctrine that bishops are the successors of the apostles and deserve some respect and obedience due to their office. If you don't believe that, then you are not embracing the fullness of the Catholic faith.
In this day and age I do not think that the Archdiocese of New York can afford to have an Archbishop that is afraid of the liberal secular press.One of Egan's first moves in New York was to emasculate the diocesan paper,"Catholic New York".He changed it from a dynamic weekly to a harmless monthly.This was done at a time when we needed a regular Catholic voice on the major issues of the day.
Mahoney tried to submarine Mother Angelica.
bumpus ad summum
Thanks for this info. As I said, I just picked up the names from reading about them. However, even though some have gone, they still need our prayers - especially Apb. Jadot, who was responsible for the worst of them and is still proud of that fact. NYer has the link to an article on Jadot.
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