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To: annalex; Diego1618
The Webster's dictionary tells us that the word "magisterium" comes from the Latin "magister" which means "a master". And remember Simon Magus didn't want to be a lowly disciple but a Master or Magister of this Christianity that he saw. When he was denied it by Peter, he started a counterfeit Christianity of which he became the Magister right there on his sacerdotal chair in Rome for 25 years from which the magisterial Papacy grew. The magisterium there in Rome does trace its roots to that person sitting on that magisterial sacerdotal chair in Rome for 25 years under Claudius and Nero, doesn't it?

Simon Magus used magic not the logic of words and reason to magister his followers. His followers worshipped his image while he was alive and long after he was gone. From him came the imaginative[allegorical] interpretation of Scripture that was used change its meaning, like making the words "Babylon" or "another place" mean "Rome", and "Israel" mean "the Church".

And from him grew a magisterium of "interpreters" who claimed that their magical skills were necessary to divine the true meaning of the Scripture, since the words didn't mean what they said or say what they meant. This magisterium, with its secret code book claimed that the"Imago Dei" [Image of God] was superior to the "Verbum Dei" [Word of God]. And it was their image of Christianity that Simon Magus's followers hid behind, pretending to be something that they were not, calling and being called Christians, when they were actually phonies and counterfeits just like him.

This magisterium isn't "in the gall of bitterness" about what we are exposing here, are they? None of their followers are "in the gall of bitterness" about what the evidence has uncovered, are they? They're not "in the gall of bitterness" because the true root of their counterfeit Christianity is being uncovered right before their eyes, are they?

Perhaps they should instead follow those sound words of Simon Peter to Simon Magus, the words that he chose not to receive to his eternal regret:

"Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter; for thy heart is not right in the sight of God. Repent, therefore of this thine wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee."[Acts 8:21-22]

561 posted on 11/03/2006 3:27:58 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
And remember Simon Magus didn't want to be a lowly disciple but a Master or Magister of this Christianity that he saw. When he was denied it by Peter, he started a counterfeit Christianity of which he became the Magister right there on his sacerdotal chair in Rome for 25 years from which the magisterial Papacy grew. The magisterium there in Rome does trace its roots to that person sitting on that magisterial sacerdotal chair in Rome for 25 years under Claudius and Nero, doesn't it?

Do you have ANY BASIS for such a wild claim? ANY whatsoever? Any evidence besides your wishful thinking? If not, all you are doing is being divisive among the Body of Christ.

Regards

564 posted on 11/03/2006 6:19:06 AM PST by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: Uncle Chip; Diego1618

Yes, Christians will be well advised to steer clear of superstition. Why do you think I struggle so much to free some of them from the superstition of Sola Scriptura?


571 posted on 11/03/2006 7:53:34 AM PST by annalex
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