To: SoothingDave; ears_to_hear; Dr. Eckleburg
"When you remove Church and Sacrament and history from your beliefs, it is little surprise that you fixate on Scripture as all. I mean, what else do you have left?"
The scriptures say that that is enough to make you wise unto salvation, 2 Tim. 3:15-17, "And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
It doesn't say that the Church, sacraments or history can do that. It is only through the Scriptures that God has revealed His plan of salvation. The Scriptures are perspicuous in all that relates to salvation and one does not need a professional class to interpret it. The Holy Spirit is sufficient for the task.
To: blue-duncan
It doesn't say that the Church, sacraments or history can do that. The man that verse was written to had both church and sacraments already.
282 posted on
11/03/2006 1:17:30 PM PST by
Campion
("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
To: blue-duncan; ears_to_hear; Alex Murphy; HarleyD
It doesn't say that the Church, sacraments or history can do that. It is only through the Scriptures that God has revealed His plan of salvation. The Scriptures are perspicuous in all that relates to salvation and one does not need a professional class to interpret it. The Holy Spirit is sufficient for the task. Amen. And those with ears to hear and eyes to see, all given by God, will hear and understand and believe.
283 posted on
11/03/2006 1:18:36 PM PST by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: blue-duncan
**The scriptures say that that is enough to make you wise unto salvation, 2 Tim. 3:15-17, "And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
It doesn't say that the Church, sacraments or history can do that. It is only through the Scriptures that God has revealed His plan of salvation. The Scriptures are perspicuous in all that relates to salvation and one does not need a professional class to interpret it. The Holy Spirit is sufficient for the task. Do not confuse people with the word of God. :)
No where does it say that men are saved through the church, But Catholics are saved by faith in their church alone
290 posted on
11/03/2006 1:55:06 PM PST by
ears_to_hear
("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see. ")
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