Posted on 11/05/2006 6:57:21 AM PST by Gamecock
I recently heard that alcohol abuse is higher among Baptists, Wesleyan and fundamentalists than among Presbyterians and Episcopalians. Wonder if that can be because we teach Wine is a gift not to be abused, while others teach wine is the devil's drink? (looking for citation)
--you'll find plenty of encouragement here--
--http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/
Perhaps people are just thinking for themselves, and realising that it's not evil.
Why?
Where do you get the idea that Jesus drank "other strong drink"?
Yeah, let's encourage more drinking.
It never leads to soused people under any circumstances.
Nor does it lend itself to encouraging sexual promiscuity, physical abuse, nor the lack of ones ability to defend one's person nor of an unbridled tongue.
Drink up, all you lads and lasses! For tomorrow, you will awaken with a hangover based only in the freedom you have in God!
BTW, WWJD? He'd have a glass of wine and he'd make sure his friends had some wine too!)
Alcohol reduces inhibitions. Aside from that, what is it good for?
If you can't be happy without it, you have a mental problem which you are medicating with alcohol.
Of course Christ drank wine. But we know of no example of an occasion in which he ever even remotely started to lose control of Himself.
I can't say I can even count on one hand the number of people I know who drink who have always stopped with one drink on every drinking occasion. But I can tell you that it would take multiple hands to count the women I've known who, with alcohol involved, were raped.
Oh, and don't forget those who are maimed and killed by drunk driving. Do the drivers think they've had "too much"? Nope. Nor can most when in that state.
So, drink up, buddy. Enjoy your bad habit to the excesses mentioned above.
After all, Jesus drank a lot, right?
Would you have a cite for that proposition?
If not, then where did you hear it?
--see this--
--http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?FORM=TOOLBR&q=Wine+is+a+mocker,+strong+drink+is+raging
I recently heard that rejoicing in the gift of wine is higher among Baptists, Wesleyan and fundamentalists than among Presbyterians and Episcopalians
There, I made it conform to the intent of the article.
What "other strong drink" did they have in Biblical times. Does it mean beer or other fermented grain alcohol, or did they have distilled grain alcohol?
Eisegesis.
Although I agree with the conclusion that Christians can drink alcohol, the use of Deuteronomy 14:26 for support is not warranted unless one is willing to accept the context of the verse.
Deu 14:23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
Deu 14:24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Deu 14:25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
Deu 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
These verses are referring to the 2nd tithe, a tithe that was to be used when one is observing the festivals of God. Most "reformers" would say that we are not obligated to observe God's festivals, therefore the conclusion that "God's people" are to drink before the Lord is unwarranted unless one is observing God's festivals.
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"Alcohol reduces inhibitions. Aside from that, what is it good for? "
It's good "for thy stomach's sake, and for thine often infirmities," according to Paul.
As for other things, I have mildly elevated blood pressure. My doctor prescribed a medication, but I didn't like the side effects after trying it for a while, so I asked him if there was another way to deal with this non-critical elevation.
He told me to have a glass of wine with my supper. I do, and the elevation went away.
Apparently Paul and my physician knew of something wine is good for. It's the alcohol that lowers the blood pressure.
All in moderation, of course. You can count me as one of those who has one glass then stops.
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