[kerryusama04]

Do you have a point?

[Mad Dawg]

My point is that the desire to debate, and especially the desire to win, to triumph, can lead one (and I suspect -- I do not know -- has led you) to state in offensive and tendentious language the stand of those you want to cast in the role of your "opponents".

It also leads to over simplification, which was the point of the loving the teenager example.

The truth may be simple, but its articulation may require nuance and patience. You are not going to understand what the Catholic Church teaches with this approach AND those who disagree with you will not be left with an impression of the strength of your position but rather a sense that you never quite udnerstood what they were saying.

It's hard to touch hearts with a clenched fist.