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To: kerryusama04
Are you saying the authority of the church at Rome trumps the Word of God?

No. But the authority of the Sacred Magisterium entails that the Sacred Magisterium's interpretation of Scripture trump's your interpretation of Scripture everytime.

And here you say scripture is the Word of God:

Yes.

But the word of God says the 7th day is the Sabbath, and Rome abolished that and moved it to the first day without a shred of scripture to base it upon. So does the church at Rome trump scripture, thus trumping the Word of God?

First, see above. Second, I already explained this with respect to the "New Covenant" in post #124.

This is precisely my point. The church at Rome did not have primacy for hundreds of years after the close of scipture.

False. Read the fathers.

Jesus, the author of the Law, sanctifies the Sabbath, but Rome sanctifies Sunday in direct contradiction of the Law of God.

See above.

So, if you believe that Rome has this power, then it simply does not matter if the doctrine of the trinity is scriptural or not.

If Rome has this authority and power, and if Rome says that Sunday is the holy day, then Sunday is the holy day.

-A8

140 posted on 11/17/2006 1:05:33 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8
No. But the authority of the Sacred Magisterium entails that the Sacred Magisterium's interpretation of Scripture trump's your interpretation of Scripture everytime.

But Sunday worship is not a matter of interpretation for a Catholic. There is no scriptural support for this dogma. It is, in fact, in direct contradiction to the Word of God.

If Rome has this authority and power, and if Rome says that Sunday is the holy day, then Sunday is the holy day.

Then why does it matter if anything is scriptural? Like my parents, leave the theology for the Church, kick back, partake of the Sacraments, and relax. Everything will be OK.

142 posted on 11/17/2006 1:14:01 PM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: adiaireton8; kerryusama04
(kerryusama04) " This is precisely my point. The church at Rome did not have primacy for hundreds of years after the close of scipture."

(a8) "False. Read the fathers."

(kerry) "The church at Rome did not have primacy for hundreds of years after the close of scipture."

True. Read Canon VI First Council of Nicaea.

FIRST COUNCIL OF NICAEA - 325 AD

Canon 6.
The ancient customs of Egypt, Libya and Pentapolis shall be maintained, according to which the bishop of Alexandria has authority over all these places since a similar custom exists with reference to the bishop of Rome. Similarly in Antioch and the other provinces the prerogatives of the churches are to be preserved. In general the following principle is evident: if anyone is made bishop without the consent of the metropolitan, this great synod determines that such a one shall not be a bishop. If however two or three by reason of personal rivalry dissent from the common vote of all, provided it is reasonable and in accordance with the church's canon, the vote of the majority shall prevail.

First Council of Nicaea - Click Here

146 posted on 11/18/2006 9:53:03 AM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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