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To: Wallace T.

I'd also separate Catholic from catholic -- Eastern Orthodox ARE part of the Apostolic Church and so were many Anglican Churches. Political dissent does not validate a church being considered completely separate, but complete 180 degree differences in theology, DO, as in the case of Calvinistic beliefs versus Church beliefs


52 posted on 11/15/2006 8:08:38 PM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Cronos
I'd also separate Catholic from catholic -- Eastern Orthodox ARE part of the Apostolic Church and so were many Anglican Churches. Political dissent does not validate a church being considered completely separate, but complete 180 degree differences in theology, DO, as in the case of Calvinistic beliefs versus Church beliefs

While I agree that the Eastern Orthodox are an apostolic church, I do not think that the Anglican are considered apostolic - since they broke from apostolic succession when Henry 8 made himself the visible ruler of the Church over the Pope. Anglican orders are not accepted by the Catholic Church, as far as I know. Thus, I believe the political dissent CAN be considered a means of breaking from apostolicity. It would be interesting to discuss why Anglican orders are not valid, while Orthodox are - considering they both broke from Rome. Perhaps it is because no Orthodox has usurped the Pope's position... Regards

55 posted on 11/16/2006 6:57:01 AM PST by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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