Let's get real here. No Catholic that I ever knew who was baptized as an infant was ever rebaptized as an adult by their Catholic Church. As a matter of fact it was simply not even entertained as a point of discussion.
Their certificate of infant baptism was their evidence of having met their requirements of entry into the faith through baptism [though without their willful consent as scripture and the tradition of baptism requires]. Those who were baptized as infants and wanted to be baptized as adults and especially in the traditional way of the apostles had to convert to another Church or denomination.
If you are saying that that the RCC rebaptizes as adults those who had been baptized as infants, then that is a "new" tradition that undermines the old, and is being done by the RCC not willingly but reluctantly because so many in your RCC are doing the unthinkable and reading their Scriptures and seeing the insufficiency of your infant baptism.
It actually is more proper to say that the Spirit inhabits the entire Church as one man. Thus, we are united in Christ, since the Church is the Body of Christ. Sure, the Spirit comes to us individually, but more often than not, Paul refers to the entire community as if it is one body inhabited by the Spirit, such as when he says WE are the Temple of the Holy Spirit (not individually, but as a corporate organization that is visible).
This sounds like Roman Catholic Communism that rules the individuals with its mystical "Collective Mind". And Catholics wonder where Socialism and Communism comes from? We enter the world one at a time, and we leave one at a time, and stand before God one at a time. Your problem is "Group Think". Your Church wants everybody to fall in line and serve "the collective entity" as if it will be eternal, but the Church of Rome will fall taking those in it with it, while the Kingdom of Israel that rises from Jerusalem will stand forever as will those individuals who want to be part of it, as "It Is Written".
That's because we know we were saved at Baptism. We don't need to worry whether it "took", unlike those who rely on their own faith to determine whether they were saved.
Those who were baptized as infants and wanted to be baptized as adults and especially in the traditional way of the apostles had to convert to another Church or denomination.
Why be baptized a second time? Once baptized, you are a child of God. It doesn't depend on anything YOU do, but on God Himself. Did the servant of the Roman Centurion look to be healed in PERSON? Because HE didn't ask Christ, did it mean anything less??? He was HEALED! You clearly don't understand the concept of family or community in the bigger picture of Scriptures.
If you are saying that that the RCC rebaptizes as adults those who had been baptized as infants, then that is a "new" tradition that undermines the old, and is being done by the RCC not willingly but reluctantly because so many in your RCC are doing the unthinkable and reading their Scriptures and seeing the insufficiency of your infant baptism
I never said the Church rebaptizes. Perhaps you misunderstood me. RCIA is for those who have NEVER been baptized AND for those who are converting from another Christian denomination. For the former, they receive Baptism, along with Confirmation and the Eucharist (the sacraments of Initiation). For the latter, they do not receive Baptism, they already WERE baptized and ARE members of the Church, but not completely. Thus, they complete their initiation with Confirmation (does what it sounds like) and the Eucharist.
This sounds like Roman Catholic Communism that rules the individuals with its mystical "Collective Mind".
Sorry if you disapprove of Paul's take on the Church, the Body of Christ. Have you read 1 Cor 12 or Rom 12? How about Ephesians? Paul calls the members of the Church as parts of a Body, the Body of Christ that is mystically joined - "when one suffers, everyone suffers; when one is honored, all rejoice". There is a connection between all the members of the Body because we share in the life of Christ. This applies not only to those members walking in this world, but those who have entered into eternal life - nothing can separate us from Christ. If you have problems with the analogy that SCRIPTURES make, what can I say?
Catholics wonder where Socialism and Communism comes from?
Is that the best you can do? Blame the Church for the rise of a revolutionary government that FIRST seeks to destroy its own members? WHO is one of the primary enemies of Communist revolutions? Who are among the first killed? Prominent Catholics and priests are among the first targets and remain so during the existence of Communist regimes. Judging by this answer and your knowledge of Church history, you need to do some seriously reading on history before spouting off such nonsense...
Your Church wants everybody to fall in line and serve "the collective entity" as if it will be eternal
Not only are you not aware of Church history, you don't even know much about God Himself, who ALSO is a "collective entity". Ever hear about the Blessed Trinity??? For someone who claims to live by the Bible, it is amazing how little you know about Him who Is.
Your Church wants everybody to fall in line and serve "the collective entity" as if it will be eternal, but the Church of Rome will fall taking those in it with it, while the Kingdom of Israel that rises from Jerusalem will stand forever as will those individuals who want to be part of it, as "It Is Written".
You sure you read Romans 11? We are joined into the root, we, the wild shoot. There is no separate "kingdom of Israel" and "Church of Rome"....
I'd like to stay and chat, but this conversation has lost its value to me. You already have your mind made up and nothing I write will change it, even pointing out your numerous errors and your inabilitiy to answer my questions. Even Christ didn't convince the Pharisees, so what chance do I have with someone like yourself? Clearly, you need to consider looking at your tagline and following your own advice. Open yourself to truth, not your opinions.
Adios